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Pulling my hair out.... Editing Rain

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Pulling my hair out.... Editing Rain

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I had to sort my rain sensor out, but forgot to disconnect/turn-off my weather station, so I got a big fat reading which I am trying to edit out..

I keep editing the monthly records, all time, rain for today, this month etc data, through Cumulus and via editing raw data, but the High Rate value keeps coming back and will not FRACK OFF!!!

:bash:

I am getting so frustrated I feel like deleting the whole lot and starting again.

Can anybody help?

I think the Oct12log file is the culprit, as all the other files are easy to figure out....

Grrrrr :(
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Re: Pulling my hair out.... Editing Rain

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The rain rate is calculated using the amount of rain that the station says has fallen in the last five minutes, so six minutes after the 'false' rain, it should be stable and you can then reset the high rain rate and it will stay there. Today's high rain is in today.ini:

[Rain]
High=0
HTime=10:00

and all the other high rain rates (all time etc) have editors in Cumulus. So, if you stop Cumulus and edit today.ini then start Cumulus and edit the alltime etc high, the problem should be sorted.

By the way, it's the rain gauge/transmitter which holds the rain count, so disconnecting or turning off the console wouldn't have helped. You need to unplug the rain gauge from the transmitter before fiddling around with it.
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Re: Pulling my hair out.... Editing Rain

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Thank you for reply...

I cannot get rid of Last Hour, and Last 24 hours, no matter what I do - I am using N96GY Station

Do I need to reset the remote sensor?

Thanks :(

If I clear the today.ini rain values, the 12mm value is put back with the current time and date, so something is updating it?
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As I have posted more than once in the last few days, when the rain counter goes haywire, it's not easy to correct the last hour and last 24 hours figures, because they are calculated based on the progression of the counter over those periods. It is much easier to just ignore them until they correct themselves.

If you really want to correct them now, you will have to stop Cumulus and edit the 'total rain counter' values in Oct12log.txt for the last 24 hours. You'll need to fudge them from what they actually were at the time to what they would have been based on the current value of your rain counter; i.e. if you have added 20mm of spurious rain, add 20 to all of the rain counter figures for the last 24 hours. If you've had genuine rain in that period it becomes even more complicated, of course.
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DemonTraitor wrote:If I clear the today.ini rain values
Values? Plural? Which values are you editing in today.ini?
the 12mm value is put back with the current time and date, so something is updating it?
12 mm, or 12 mm/hr? You're trying to correct the rate, yes? You're saying that when you start Cumulus up again, it is immediately calculating a rate of 12 mm/hr?
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The trouble is, I am editing the records files, but the 12mm rain in the last hour is setting a record and replacing what I have edited in all the record files...

Highest Hourly Rainfall record is saying October @ 12mm, but had no rain in October, oh, until now....

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steve wrote: By the way, it's the rain gauge/transmitter which holds the rain count, so disconnecting or turning off the console wouldn't have helped. You need to unplug the rain gauge from the transmitter before fiddling around with it.
I don't mean to hijack the topic but do you know what is the maximum amount of rain it can save? (I did notice it does update when there's a sensor loss sometimes).
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DemonTraitor wrote:The trouble is, I am editing the records files, but the 12mm rain in the last hour is setting a record and replacing what I have edited in all the record files...
See my earlier post about rain last hour and last 24 hours.
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Spider-Vice wrote:I don't mean to hijack the topic
:roll:
but do you know what is the maximum amount of rain it can save?
What do you mean by "save"?
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WOW, I think I have sorted it - but rather confused with how...

The records are now back to normal, but I still do have the last 24 hours as 12mm, which I can ignore. It was the records being updated that was bothering me.

Thank you Steve for your very much appreciated help.... headache dispersing :)

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steve wrote:
Spider-Vice wrote:I don't mean to hijack the topic
:roll:
but do you know what is the maximum amount of rain it can save?
What do you mean by "save"?
Well yes, I know I hijacked it. :lol: You said unplugging the console wouldn't be enough as the transmitter/rain gauge holds the rain count, I noticed this happening when signal is lost or it goes search for the DCF signal, the missing rain between the failed transmissions seems to be reported. So I wonder how much can it hold and for how long?
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Er......

I have had all my data files perfectly edited and running fine, but now the rainfall rate of 144 mm/hr etc is all back and re-updated my records LOL :cry:

Where the hell did it get all this data from?

Could it be....

I am not sure how the Rain Sensor "rocker" works (N96GY), but is it possible to have the "tipper" stuck so that it constantly registers as full mm/hr etc? Am I making sense?

My 144 mm/hr rainfall is coming from somewhere, as it aint raining.....
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DemonTraitor wrote:Er......

I have had all my data files perfectly edited and running fine, but now the rainfall rate of 144 mm/hr etc is all back and re-updated my records LOL :cry:

Where the hell did it get all this data from?

Could it be....

I am not sure how the Rain Sensor "rocker" works (N96GY), but is it possible to have the "tipper" stuck so that it constantly registers as full mm/hr etc? Am I making sense?

My 144 mm/hr rainfall is coming from somewhere, as it aint raining.....


But then again, the Station console would register rain... it don't. I am very confused :(
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Re: Pulling my hair out.... Editing Rain

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Spider-Vice wrote:So I wonder how much can it hold and for how long?
There's no limit. Well, apart from the size of the counter, which is 16 bits when Cumulus reads it. I don't know the actual size of the register in the rain gauge. It's just a counter, it just keeps going up, whether the console is reading it or not; the transmitter doesn't know that the station isn't reading it.
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DemonTraitor wrote:But then again, the Station console would register rain... it don't. I am very confused :(
Zip up the diags folder and attach it, along with today.ini and oct12log.txt.
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