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WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

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WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by michel62 »

hello,
Congratulation for your great software : CUMULUS!
I am owner of a "Lacrosse Technology WS-2350".
I have a lot of problems getting this superb software CUMULUS!
the give with my WS2350 software is : ESAYWEATHER (of 2002) and is obsolete.
I want serve me only CUMULUS :P
and abandon (uninstall) EASYWEATHER. :evil:

Mr "CUMULUS designer", can you make your software accepts my station directly without problems
(com1 port adapter via COM / USB) as this is not the case with moment.
Can you making a obtion "WS-2350" in case to activate?

Actualy, if i activate "easyweather datas", not results... with 2300, not résults... desespérate "OOOO", not working!

I not think the alone have the WS-2350, but may be the only one to make this request ... :roll:
I thank you wholeheartedly
best regards.
Michel62 from France
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by steve »

My understanding is that the 2350 is very similar to the 2300 and should work with the same settings. Of course, you will probably have problems with bad data because of the USB/serial adapter. I don't support the use of an adapter, I can't seem get Cumulus to work reliably with one.

I assume your problem is that you don't get any data displayed at all? If you turn on the debug log, and send me the debug.log file, as well as the files from the Diags folder, I may be able to see what's happening.

Steve
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by michel62 »

Hi Steve,

It's Okay! I turned the obtion for WS2300 and it's work fine! :P

i stay turning the station and your soft, and i give e feedback in some times, for your information.
Thank you for your speedy answer!

a just a ideas for a future version :

- making a beautiful pictogram for the tendeancy ( rain, sun, couldy, strike...)
- making with "photographic" gif the moonphases, more réalistic...
- making a icons for sun and moon (rise, set)...
- addon the level of base the coulds with a pictogram on the screen...
- and... and... a french version :lol:
naturely this is only some ideas and purpose, not order :roll:

many thank's for all.

Best regards.

a french admirative friend!

Michel62
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

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michel62 wrote:naturely this is only some ideas and purpose, not order :roll:
I understand :)

Cumulus 2 will have a French version.

Steve
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by michel62 »

Thank you Steve.

Just a remark : in "récent extrème" i have a speed of wind = 144 KM/H (!!!) it's a bug? :o
the wind actual is into 2,5 and 4,4 Km/h...
best regards.

Michel
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

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michel62 wrote:Just a remark : in "récent extrème" i have a speed of wind = 144 KM/H (!!!) it's a bug? :o
It's like I said; with the USB/serial adapter you will get bad data.

Steve
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by michel62 »

Hi Steve,

I have to uninstall Cumulus, to my very great regret, in fact, wind speed at 140 km / h, temperature of 66 ° instead of 18 ° ... :o
Too many errors and the software becomes more reliable, because of the link COM / USB ... :cry:
I'm totally sorry and very disappointed, because for once a man manages to create a software functional and so beautiful!
if one day, you have solved or circumvented this problem, please let me know ... :idea: :idea: :idea:
again thank you for having responded to my questions.
Best regards.

Michel ;)
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by Greebo »

Related to this steve, recall I said I was going to try and force a situation where I get bad data?
I've written the code and tested it using the serial port and (as expected) don't get ANY bad data. Over the next few days I should get a chance to pull things apart and plug the USB->Serial adapter back in and try it all again with the adapter in place. Fingers crossed I can get lots of bad data out of the station.

It was interesting to note that a read of the standard weather data points (in/out temp/humidity, wind speed/direction and rain) takes about 0.5 seconds to read while the station is not communicating with the external sensors and up to 5 seconds to read the same values when it is communicating with the sensors (ie. the transmit/receive indicator is showing on the station console).

Hopefully I'll have some good news in a few days which may lead you to a solution to the bad data problems...
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

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michel62 wrote:if one day, you have solved or circumvented this problem, please let me know
I have tried very hard to solve this, and spent many, many hours, helped by a few Cumulus users. When used with an adapter, errors occur, and when used with a real serial port there are no (very few) errors. I cannot see what I can do to Cumulus to prevent this.

Steve
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by michel62 »

Hello Greebo,
Thank you for making this work! indeed, it would have been much simpler than Lacrosse Technology have made a direct cable RG235/USB live ", instead of going through this adapter! :evil:
I still hope! :roll: :idea: :idea: :idea:
Cumulus is too beautiful and very functional! easyweather too obsolete (2002 )....
Thank you again to work for the event so special. :P

Best regards.

Michel ;)
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

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Greebo wrote:It was interesting to note that a read of the standard weather data points (in/out temp/humidity, wind speed/direction and rain) takes about 0.5 seconds to read while the station is not communicating with the external sensors and up to 5 seconds to read the same values when it is communicating with the sensors (ie. the transmit/receive indicator is showing on the station console).
I forgot to mention that in the later versions there is an ini-file setting to avoid reads when the station is communicating with the sensors. In the [Station] section add:

WS2300Sync=1

This makes Cumulus check the time that the station is going to communicate with the sensors, and synchronises all of its reads to be 2.5 seconds after that. Experiments have shown that this does not help the bad data situation.
Hopefully I'll have some good news in a few days which may lead you to a solution to the bad data problems...
I hope so, but I don't know what will help. I've spent a lot of time looking at traces of bad data - which always have correct checksums - and tried a number of things to avoid the bad data, without success.

Steve
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by michel62 »

Hi,

Why Lacrosse Technology made a link cable from station to pc "in this way? RG45 taken from the station and Com-> usb to PC.
It would have been preferable to RG45-> USB Live! the new computers have not COM port, but many USB port!
In fact that Tecnology Lacrosse've taken some liberties with the connections! :evil:
I should not be the only one to experience this kind of problem with my WS-2350 which is a recent model,
and Lacrosse Technology does not even answer to emails that I send them
to try to have the connection diagram. :o

I am frustrated at not being able to make the most of this superb software ...
But I still hope, maybe a man find "a hack" :idea: , a "trick" :idea: to fix that.

:arrow: I keep warm Cumulus, just in case.

This night, i see the "ini" file to find "WS2300sync=1" and add this if not exist.

Thank you for your patience with me!
Best regards.

Michel ;)
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by Greebo »

steve wrote: I hope so, but I don't know what will help. I've spent a lot of time looking at traces of bad data - which always have correct checksums - and tried a number of things to avoid the bad data, without success.
Steve
A few hours this morning and I'm no closer. Reading the data at the same time as the sensor read simply causes lots of timeouts and retries :)
The only other thing I thought of is that the 2355 writes a history log every hour starting from 1 hour after you put the batteries in or reset it. I'm wondering if maybe the bad data occurs when you try to read the values while a log entry is being written... I'll try to force that to happen next time I get a chance.

Otherwise...... I give up and I'll just stick with direct Serial :)
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by michel62 »

Hi steve,

You can found a zip archive with all lunar phases for your software, i think that help you (?)
The moon phase with réalistic it's more beautifull into your great soft!

best regards.
your friend from france.

Michel. ;)

ps: nothing new's for my WS-2350 (?) :roll:
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Re: WS-2350 Lacrosse Technology (with cumulus) help!

Post by steve »

Thanks, but the moon component (it's not mine) works by taking a full image and just drawing part of it programmatically (it works out how much is visible), so I couldn't use these images anyway.

Steve
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