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Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012 1:02 pm
by stormchaser911
Hello Gang been using Cumulus for awhile now love the product. I would love to see a fire index so that i can upload the graph or chart the says the fire index is Low Med Or High. I would upload this to my weather website. Also i would love to see new guages in Cumulus as in the wind guage and others exetra. A new look for the Guages and the fire index would be great. Thanks.
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012 1:09 pm
by steve
As I told you by email, see
https://cumulus.hosiene.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3294 for how to set up FWI Calc to work with Cumulus.
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012 1:13 pm
by stormchaser911
Steve as i mentioned i would love to see this intergrated into the cumlus program. ive tried to work with the program you shot me. Its very detailed and diffacult. So as i mentioned i would rather see this built into Cumulus. Thanks steve
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012 2:31 pm
by TNETWeather
Looks pretty straight forward to me. Provided screen shots of the whole process as well.
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012 2:51 pm
by gemini06720
Indeed, Kevin.
Although the
FWI Calc needs some setting up, once that is done and the data file is processed by Cumulus, then it is just a matter of importing the FWI data and/or graphic images within a page.
But, the setting up of the FWI Calc and the modifications to the web page template might prove to be too complicated to some new weather station operators...

Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Tue 12 Jun 2012 3:35 pm
by stormchaser911
Thanks for the responces guys, Still having dificulty with FWI. Just would rather see Fire Index intergrated into Cunulus and have it upload to my website, Along with it having its own graph that says Low Med High for the danger.
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Tue 12 Jun 2012 5:26 pm
by gemini06720
There is no such thing as a 'one-fit-all' or 'one-does-it-all' software.
I know I cannot speak/write on behalf of Steve, but all I can say/write is that Cumulus has probably become a 'little monster' as far as its code is concern with all the requests for new options Steve has been adding over the years trying to please everyone all the time - Cumulus just started as an alternative weather software for Steve...
You want the Fire Weather Index on your web pages, then I guess you will have to find a way other than Cumulus - as pointed by Steve and others, the FWI Calc is well designed/suited for that only function - I do not see the purpose of Steve adding new code into Cumulus just to please a few users when there is already a well 'maintained' software (as in regularly updated) that not only does the FWI calculations but also produce the associated graphics...

Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Tue 12 Jun 2012 5:35 pm
by steve
It also appears that FWI Calc was recently updated to allow it to use a Cumulus realtime.txt file directly, making it even easier to use with Cumulus.
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Tue 12 Jun 2012 6:58 pm
by stormchaser911
Ok couple things here. 1 Could some one post specific instructions and yes i sorta set up FWI but dosent seem to be working proper, could some one give instructions step bye step to set it up with cumulus so i get real time data flowing into the FWI. Also my next Question is how do i after i get FWI to work and cumulus is streaming into FWI how do i upload the fire index to my weather website and get a graph were it will show the fire danger, As ini Low Med High???
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Tue 12 Jun 2012 7:25 pm
by gemini06720
Indeed, Steve, the
FWI Calc is able to directly use the Cumulus produced 'realtime.txt' - well, one needs to enter the location of the 'realtime.txt' file in the FWI Calc settings page...
Still, the FWI Calc only needs a small file (provided on the web site) with 5 parameters (the date, the temperature, the humidity, the wind speed and the amount of rain) to be processed by Cumulus...

Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Tue 12 Jun 2012 7:45 pm
by gemini06720
stormchaser911 (whatever your name is), have you even taken the time to read the help file, the 'Quick Setup Guide' page as to what parameters need to be setup, the location of the required data file (such as 'realtime.txt' file)?
Writing something such as "...i sorta set up FWI but dosent seem to be working proper..." is not even helpful as it does not indicate what you have done so far, what files (if any) have been produced by the FWI Calc, if the FWI Calc produced files have been uploaded to your web site ... and a link to your web site in both your personal settings and in your message would been helpful.
How the data produced by the FWI Calc can be used in your own web pages depends on your knowledge of web page design - you might have to do some reading and some research to learn how to modify a standard HTM template (such as those used with Cumulus) to include the table and tags produced by the FWI Calc...
You seem to be expecting a lot for free ... such as a step-by-step installation guide...

Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Wed 13 Jun 2012 8:38 pm
by stormchaser911
Steve just courius, Is the Fire index in creation for Cumulus or are u still concidering it?
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Wed 13 Jun 2012 9:04 pm
by steve
It's not something I have any plans to add any time soon. So long as there are still hundreds of enhancements requests that I haven't done yet, it makes no sense at all for me to prioritise duplicating a facility that already exists.
Don't forget that I do this in my spare time, and doing support takes up a lot of the available time. I can only add new facilities as time permits. I have to prioritise.
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Wed 13 Jun 2012 10:43 pm
by stormchaser911
Ok Gemini or what ever your name is sir. Im not expecting alot for free expechialy when i told Steve i would donate when i can, So that comment u made im throwing it out. What you should say is if peaple help donate maybie Steve could make a Fire index for Cumulus that will read of of your weather station and is able to put a graph on your website, And maybie When Steve gets time to do this he will. Now as for the FWI i sorta givin up on that. Nothing seems to be working. As i had help creating my website and yes i did some to so im not stupid but just seems to me that having a Fire Index built into Cumulus when Steve has a chance and gets money for this would be awsome. Stormchaser911 for ever
Re: Fire Index for Cumulus
Posted: Thu 14 Jun 2012 7:24 am
by steve
stormchaser911 wrote:What you should say is if peaple help donate maybie Steve could make a Fire index for Cumulus
This isn't the case, and I don't think anyone is saying that it is. I never prioritise, either development or support, based on donations. It's a question of the time available and prioritising according to that.