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web update, gauges and graph issues.

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web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by isidro »

Hi Everyone,

First time in this forum.

First of all congratulations for the great software.

I’ve some issues that are probably misconfigurations, however I cannot spot where the problem is. I have a Davis Vantage 2 but I use just the anemometer.

1, Web update

The webupdate doesn’t update automatically, manual updates work. Web update is enabled in internet options

http://www.kite.se/weather/

2. Gauges

Realtime time wind gauges work well, however the gauges above seems are not measuring the real wind and take a long time to update.

http://www.kite.se/weather/gauges.htm

Also realtime gauges don't show up on iphone, but I think that is expected for what I read and icumulus is the solution?

3.Wind Graph

Not working.

http://www.kite.se/weather/trends.htm

Not even retrieving it from cumulus itself.

I have attached some logs and screenshots, any pointer is appreciated.

Best regards
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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by beteljuice »

but I use just the anemometer.
Cumulus has a minimum expectation of data.
It may be that some operations are not taking place. Steve will have to confirm, although your realtime.txt is uploading.
Realtime time wind gauges work well, however the gauges above seems are not measuring the real wind and take a long time to update
If your auto-update is not working they will NEVER change, they are a snaphot at the time of upload - NOT realtime.
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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by steve »

Yes, sorry, Cumulus won't work very well at all with just an anemometer connected. It performs checks to make sure that data is being read before it will do things like updating the web, logging, etc.
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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by isidro »

Hi All,

Which other data is expected to collect before automatically web updating? is there any way of looking at what exactly is missingin the logs? It would be great to skip those checks, at the end if manual update works it should be easy to call the functionas many times per period as you configure...I'm talking without knowing how the sofware is developed, maybe is not as simple as that :-(

cheers
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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by steve »

isidro wrote:Which other data is expected to collect before automatically web updating?
Pressure and outside temperature.
It would be great to skip those checks, at the end if manual update works it should be easy

"It should be easy". Just like the other 200 enhancement requests that I haven't done yet.
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Post by isidro »

Thanks Steve, I hope you didn't take bad my comment, I think the job you are doing is great.

cheers
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I have to ask the question. Why would you only record wind speed with a station as expensive as a Davis VP2?
Cheers,
Ray, Cheshire.

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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by isidro »

I haven't bought the station myself. I've been asked by a colleague to set it up for a kitesurfing club. As we are interested in right wind measuring we have placed the station up to the mast just with the anemometer. We have rain collector, external temperature and I'm guessing the barometer as well, but it won't fit at the top of that mast. I don't like the idea of placing the setup to a spot with worse wind reading to collect data we are not interested in.
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Post by RayProudfoot »

There is an option with the VP2 to separate the anemometer from the ISS. You need a separate transmitter kit. http://www.davisnet.com/weather/product ... pnum=06332

There is an aditional cost but this would allow you to place the anemometer at the top of the mast and the ISS at a more suitable location. It seems such a shame not to use all aspects of such an excellent station.
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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by gemini06720 »

Indeed, as stated by 'the other Ray' :) , you could place the ISS (integrated sensor suite) minus the anemometer/wind direction sensor suite at a 'safe from public scrutiny' location and the anemometer/wind direction sensors on the mast.

The anemometer/wind direction sensor suite installed up on the mast would communicate with the Vantage Pro2 console using the suggested 'anemometer/sensor transmitter kit' (part #06332).

The ISS and/or the anemometer/sensor transmitter kit can be located at up to 300 meters (1000 feet) from the console.

With this option (the additional 'anemometer/sensor transmitter kit') then all of the functions of this excellent (and quite expensive for European countries) weather station would be used.

Had you requested information before the purchase of the Davis Vantage Pro2 weather station, suggestions on dedicated/integrated anemometer/wind direction/display units could have been provided thus preventing the purchase of a Vantage Pro2 weather station where most of the functions could/might/would not be used... :(
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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by beteljuice »

Am I missing something ?
I thought the unit was cabled to the other sensors, and could be at the base of the pole. Is it simply that they aren't connected because the club didn't think they needed them ?
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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by RayProudfoot »

beteljuice wrote:Am I missing something ?
I thought the unit was cabled to the other sensors, and could be at the base of the pole. Is it simply that they aren't connected because the club didn't think they needed them ?
That is certainly an option. The unit is supplied with a 40ft (12 meter) cable. That might be long enough depending on how secure the ISS would be from prying eyes. Longer cable lengths up to 200ft (61 meters) can be purchased. Here's the link.
Standard 4-Conductor Cable
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Post by gemini06720 »

beteljuice, I am/was presuming that the location of the mast (where the anemometer/wind direction sensors are installed) is in an 'opened to the public' area (kite surfing).

If this is/was the case, I certainly would not suggest installing the ISS (integrated sensor suite) at ground level below the mast ... unless the area was protected in some way from public access (mischief, theft come to mind). Thus my recommendation for the anemometer/sensor transmitter kit - so both units (the ISS and the kit) can/could be installed in secured ways (areas).
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Re: web update, gauges and graph issues.

Post by beteljuice »

ATM we are talking to some people who don't know what they've got through a third party who doesn't know what they've got either !

If they are unconcerned about the accuracy (or even the existance) of the other sensors, they can be located on the 'roof' or even indoors :?

At no extra cost ...........
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Post by gemini06720 »

beteljuice, I understand your point.

The other Ray and I were looking/sharing other possible options - nothing wrong about making suggestions... ;)

Hopefully, the original poster, Isidro, will try to get and provide additional information about the weather station (although Ray and I already know what the Davis Vantage Pro2 is and how it should 'theoretically' be set up) and the location where the station is to be located/installed...

I am not concerned about the accuracy of the Davis Vantage Pro2 weather station nor of its sensors (the Davis Vantage Pro2 is a very accurate weather station) ... I am concerned about a very expensive purchase that will not be used to its full advantage ... possibly because of ignorance on the part of the buying party... :roll:
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