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hdmax
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Web Hosting

Post by hdmax »

My E-Rice hosting account runs out toward the end of June, and I looking for opinions as to what are the best options for a weather web site. I have never been able to get PHP working, so many options for a web site is not available for me to use.
I am happy as far as uptime, I have not had any down time due to E-Rice, and their prices are good, even though I went with the $30 per year option, I am sure I could get by with their $20, and maybe even the $10 package.
I just want to know my best options and I would like to look into using PHP. (That would be a big plus I think!)

Thanks for any and all comments.
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Re: Web Hosting

Post by tobyspond »

Since E-Rice does offer PHP, you may not need to switch web hosting companies. When you say you have not been able to get PHP to work, what have you tried to do?

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Re: Web Hosting

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Other than try several times to place PHP pages on my host site, nothing. I don't know much about this stuff as we have discussed. I know you have tried helping me on a few occasions, and I greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
When I place HTML pages on the host site, they work for the most part, but not when I do the same with PHP pages. I would love to have a page setup that displays each days weather information as I've seen on many websites such as yours. And I thing PHP is required for that to work.
If you think you can help on this, I am here and am willing to try and learn.
tobyspond wrote:Since E-Rice does offer PHP, you may not need to switch web hosting companies. When you say you have not been able to get PHP to work, what have you tried to do?

Kerry
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Re: Web Hosting

Post by tobyspond »

You have the right idea;it is just a bit more complicated. First you need to create your index.php file, which you can do by saving your index.html file as a php file. Then you need to download the php webtags (http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/a/Php_webtags) and follow the instructions. Then you need to replace all the webtags in the index.php file with the php webtags.

You need to "include" the php webtags:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<?php

require_once("cumuluswebtags.php");
?>


For your data you will need to replace all the existing tags with the php version:

<table>
<tr>
<td >TEMPERATURE</td>
</tr>
<tr >
<td>Temperature</td>
<td ><?php echo $temp;?>&nbsp;<?php echo $tempunit;?></td> - php webtags

That is basically what needs to be done for the initial set up. You can read more about php at http://www.w3schools.com/php/
good luck,

Kerry
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Re: Web Hosting

Post by gemini06720 »

Before you try anything too complicated (such as modifying and/or adapting an HTML to PHP), you should use the small utility attached to this message.

It contains 3 files - two of the files include the source code and the instructions (PLEASE TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO READ AT LEAST ONE OF THE FILES) while the third file is ready for upload.

Here is what yo need to do:
  • - extract the 3 files from the ZIP archive;
    - read one of the files for the instructions - you do not need to create a PHP script/template as one is already included (and tested) in the ZIP archive;
    - upload the 'PHP_Available_Test.php' PHP script/template to (preferably) the root directory of your online hosting server;
    - start your browser and type in the link to this newly uploaded file, such as: - press enter to load the processed content of the PHP script/template into your browser;
    - information on the availability of PHP on your hosting server should be displayed.

If you see something like this, PHP is NOT available from your hosting service provider:
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Re: Web Hosting

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mjn
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Re: Web Hosting

Post by mjn »

I am looking at Ariotek as a host site. Which deal will support a basic Cumulus weather site with the 'Weather Blues' template. The 'starter' has 250mb disc space,1Gb bandwidth and 1FTP account at £10 a year or the 'basic' has 1Gb disc space, 20gb bandwidth and 5 FTP accounts at £30 a year. Also is it better to get my .co.uk address from another source and why?
Many thanks...... :)
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Re: Web Hosting

Post by scoobs »

Personal opinon your better off getting domain else where then you are in control and if they go under you still have access to domain to point to new server etc. domainmonster, reg123 are ok .co.uk you have to purchase min 2 years

They are giving you around 85gb pm x 12 = 1gb
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Re: Web Hosting

Post by quinny »

I'm looking at One.com for hosting a website: they're offering free 5GB storage and unlimited bandwidth and free domain registration (setup costs only £9), with future costs at £10.80 p/a. Too good to be true? How much storage is recommended for a website?
TNETWeather

Re: Web Hosting

Post by TNETWeather »

There are a ton of weather related sites using E-Rice. I even have an account which I use for doing support with people who have them and can't get something working.

PHP and MySQL work great on with their hosting.

If you are having problems getting something to work, ask and I'm sure many will help out. It is certainly better that most "Free" sites and works well with weather related sites with lots of updates.
TNETWeather

Re: Web Hosting

Post by TNETWeather »

mjn wrote:Also is it better to get my .co.uk address from another source and why?
Many thanks...... :)
The advantage of having your domain with a registrar and the hosting with someone else is that you are not married to the hosting company. If they go bad, have a down period, simply disappear, you may not be able to get your domain transferred elsewhere. Also, some hosting companies don't actually register the domain in YOUR name... they tie it to the hosting agreement which makes it messy if you need to leave quickly.

A number of weather sites (and forums) have had this issue in the past.

Using a major domain registrar means they are most likely going to conform with standard business practices and follow ICANN rules. You can point your domain's name servers to anywhere and then change your mind without dealing with the hosting company.

I would recommend that you setup your domain for auto renewal, or prepay for a couple years so that it never expires. The cost of a yearly domain fee is nothing compared to if you let it expire and want to buy it back. The new "owner" may want $$$K to give it back to you. And you really have no claim as you let it expire.
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