Cumulus, XML, AJAX and translations

ritchie · Post by **ritchie** » Sat 28 Feb 2009 11:07 am

aadal wrote:Where is link to your page en_it?
I solved the spesial norwegian characters i use:
'Waxing Crescent' => 'Voksende m&#229ne',
The weather in Oslo is on the other side of the mountains from here, but then the sun is start working longer hourer.
I think its early to bring shorts
Here is Weather statistics for Oslo http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Oslo/Oslo ... stics.html

Too darn cold for me - price of flights might also put me off

The code for creating the translated date looks like this:

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<span id="#dayname" class="refresh"></span>&nbsp;<span id="#day" class="refresh"></span>&nbsp;<span id="#monthname" class="refresh">&nbsp;</span><span id="#year" class="refresh"></span>&nbsp;<span id="#hour" class="refresh"></span>:<span id="#minute" class="refresh"></span>

You need to move the individual components around to suit your own language.
My experimental page is at:
http://www.s1consulting.co.uk/weather/ajaxindex.htm
Native Italian speakers must excuse my translations, I don't know how to put some of the words into a weather context

aadal · Post by **aadal** » Sat 28 Feb 2009 4:57 pm

ritchie wrote:
aadal wrote:Where is link to your page en_it?
I solved the spesial norwegian characters i use:
'Waxing Crescent' => 'Voksende m&#229ne',
The weather in Oslo is on the other side of the mountains from here, but then the sun is start working longer hourer.
I think its early to bring shorts
Here is Weather statistics for Oslo http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Oslo/Oslo ... stics.html
Too darn cold for me - price of flights might also put me off

The code for creating the translated date looks like this:
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;:
You need to move the individual components around to suit your own language.
My experimental page is at:
http://www.s1consulting.co.uk/weather/ajaxindex.htm
Native Italian speakers must excuse my translations, I don't know how to put some of the words into a weather context

Thanks ritchie
I use the code but it cant take the day, strange.

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<span id="#dayname" class="refresh">

Cant take in cumulusdata.xml is:

Give thise:

ritchie · Post by **ritchie** » Sat 28 Feb 2009 5:57 pm

Aha - I didn't realise that was how you are doing that - it's OK, but not how I intended it.
I expected to see the English in the XML file and let the php responder do the translations !

However, if you want to do it your way, we will need to change the xml header, currently it is:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>

So we will need to change it so that the correct language encoding is used.
Guess what - I don't know what that is, so we will have to explore or wait until we get a kind bystander to educate us !

aadal · Post by **aadal** » Sat 28 Feb 2009 8:25 pm

ritchie wrote:Aha - I didn't realise that was how you are doing that - it's OK, but not how I intended it.
I expected to see the English in the XML file and let the php responder do the translations !

However, if you want to do it your way, we will need to change the xml header, currently it is:
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
So we will need to change it so that the correct language encoding is used.
Guess what - I don't know what that is, so we will have to explore or wait until we get a kind bystander to educate us !

Hi
I run local xmldata.tpl :

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<weatherdata>
	<item name="#time">
		<description>The current date and time</description> 			
		<value><#time></value>
		<unit></unit> 
		<image></image>
	</item>
	<item name="#day"> 
		<value><#day></value>
		<unit></unit> 
		<image></image>
		<description>The current day as a 2-digit number</description> 
	</item>
	<item name="#dayname"> 
		<value><#dayname></value>
		<unit></unit> 
		<image></image>
		<description>The current day as a word</description> 
	</item>
	<item name="#shortdayname"> 
		<value><#shortdayname></value>
		<unit></unit> 
		<image></image>
		<description>The current day as a shortened word</description> 
	</item>
	<item name="#month"> 
		<value><#month></value>
		<unit></unit> 
		<image></image>
		<description>The current month as a 2-digit number</description> 
	</item>
	<item name="#monthname"> 
		<value><#monthname></value>
		<unit></unit> 
		<image></image>
		<description>The current month as a word</description> 
	</item>
	<item name="#shortmonthname"> 
		<value><#shortmonthname></value>
		<unit></unit> 
		<image></image>
		<description>The current month as a shortened word</description> 
	</item>
	<item name="#year"> 
		<value><#year></value>

Give me at web in cumulusdata.xml :

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?> 
- <weatherdata>
- <item name="#time">
  <description>The current date and time</description> 
  <value>21:14 on 28 februar 2009</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  </item>
- <item name="#day">
  <value>28</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current day as a 2-digit number</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#dayname">
  <value>lørdag</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current day as a word</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#shortdayname">
  <value>lø</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current day as a shortened word</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#month">
  <value>02</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current month as a 2-digit number</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#monthname">
  <value>februar</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current month as a word</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#shortmonthname">
  <value>feb</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current month as a shortened word</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#year">
  <value>2009</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current year as a 4-digit number</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#shortyear">
  <value>09</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current year as a 2-digit number</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#hour">
  <value>21</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current hour as a 2-digit number</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#minute">
  <value>14</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current minute as a 2-digit number</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#date">
  <value>28.02.2009</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current date</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#forecast">
  <value>Occasional precipitation, worsening</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The current forecast</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#temp">
  <value>2,7</value> 
- <unit>
- <![CDATA[ &deg;C
  ]]> 
  </unit>
  <image /> 
  <description>The outside temperature</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#intemp">
  <value>22,3</value> 
- <unit>
- <![CDATA[ &deg;C
  ]]> 
  </unit>
  <image /> 
  <description>The inside temperature</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#hum">
  <value>78</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The outside humidity</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#inhum">
  <value>38</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The inside humidity</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#press">
  <value>1000,9</value> 
  <unit>hPa</unit> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The sea level pressure</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#presstrend">
  <value>Falling slowly</value> 
  <unit /> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The pressure trend in words</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#presstrendval">
  <value>-0,2</value> 
  <unit>hPa</unit> 
  <image /> 
  <description>The pressure trend in figures</description> 
  </item>
- <item name="#dew">
  <value>-0,8</value> 
- <unit>
- <![CDATA[ &deg;C
  ]]> 
  </unit>

Here is some English and some Norwegian

beteljuice · Post by **beteljuice** » Sat 28 Feb 2009 9:37 pm

Some 'escape' sequences are used by xml, so, because of the way you are generating your characters you may have to use:

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<![CDATA[
my escaped text
]]

In your xml template.

aadal · Post by **aadal** » Sat 28 Feb 2009 11:04 pm

beteljuice wrote:Some 'escape' sequences are used by xml, so, because of the way you are generating your characters you may have to use:
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<![CDATA[
my escaped text
]]
In your xml template.

Thx beteljuice
I look into thise

ritchie · Post by **ritchie** » Sun 01 Mar 2009 10:31 am

The <![CDATA[ wrapped around the output may well cure the issue, but I don't think so.
The screen that is shown looks like an interpretation made by the browser. If that browser was IE, then it will not display correctly, it will report the file as not being well-formed.

I still suspect the encoding will be the answer we need.
I guess that Cumulus is using the locale data as set in windows for the dates, hence they will always be in the laguage of the installed machine. I hadn't considered that, but it shouldn't be an issue.

aadal · Post by **aadal** » Sun 01 Mar 2009 7:57 pm

Hi
All is fine no here.
I run Vindows Vista English but keybord in Norwegian and then some in xml file is in Norwegian.
The cumulusdata.xml give me søndag and i use the locale.inc 'søndag' => 'S&#248ndag', then on all is ok in htm file.
I tryed using lots of encoding but nothing worked out.

w5afw · Post by **w5afw** » Mon 02 Mar 2009 12:16 am

any ideas why the ajax template runs okay on some webservers and not others? isn't xml support pretty standard? on one server I get "unauthorized to view this url" errors and red x's on my page, even though the shell loads ok. on a different host server with the same file setup, it's all good. curious...

ritchie · Post by **ritchie** » Mon 02 Mar 2009 8:37 am

Are you trying to access the xmlreturn.php from a different server to the one that ajaxindex.htm is on ?
That is not allowed by most browsers to stop vulnerability attacks via the web page.
The XMLHttpRequest object is subjected to the browsers security sandbox. Any resources requested by the XMLHttpRequest object must reside within the same domain from which the calling script originated. XMLHttpRequest cannot request services due to security restriction, outside the domain from which the script was originally served.
You must serve both the .htm main page and the AJAX requests that it contains from the same server.

w5afw · Post by **w5afw** » Mon 02 Mar 2009 2:38 pm

I understand. Actually, the file setup and all required data files are exactly mirrored on the two hosts. Have a look --

http://wxnow.comli.com/ajaxindex.htm

http://home.comcast.net/~w5afw/ajaxindex.htm

ritchie · Post by **ritchie** » Mon 02 Mar 2009 3:29 pm

If I try to access only the xmlreturn.php file directly I also get the error;
Ensure that the file is marked as executable, if in doubt, set it to 777

w5afw · Post by **w5afw** » Mon 02 Mar 2009 3:43 pm

that particular server does not host php; would that mean the ajax also doesn't run?

ritchie · Post by **ritchie** » Mon 02 Mar 2009 5:09 pm

yes

steviegal · Post by **steviegal** » Tue 03 Mar 2009 4:06 pm

Hi,

I am feeling adventurous and would like to try this template, but after following instructions I don't seem to be able to display the template
on my site. My data is there OK.
I have the xmldata.tpl file in Local filenames in Cumulus Internet settings.

http://www.melburyosmond.co.uk/ajaxindex.htm

Any ideas anyone?

Steve

Cumulus Support

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