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Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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I do not understand what is going on. Start up Cumulus this morning and the new record light is flashing. I check the and I have got all kinds of 0.00 readings for all the lows with the date of Dec. 30, 1899. I am about ready to chuck my attempt at monitoring weather out the window and give up.
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Re: Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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La Crosse stations are problematic and I don't have one to experiment with. Please zip up the diags folder and attach it.
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Here you go. Thank You.
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Re: Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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You seem to have been starting Cumulus up and then it closing it down again straight away? It can take a long time to get any valid data out of La Crosse stations, sometimes several minutes, so it's not a good idea to do that. You haven't got 'restart if data stops' set, by any chance? For the same reason, that's not a good idea with La Crosse stations - it checks once a minute to see if new data has been read - so that triggers quite often with La Crosse stations.

You still have your data logger set to a one hour interval. As advised in the readme, this can cause problems. You closed Cumulus down at 11.15 PM on the 4th, and didn't start it again until the next day. I think we have discussed this before?
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Re: Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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Yes, this morning when I started it up and saw the new record light blinking and looked and saw the weird dates and 0.00 figures I shut it down immediantly.

restart if data stops is not checked.

Data logger for cumulus is set to 15 minutes. I have found no way to change the data logger time of the LaCrosse 2315.

On the 4th I did miss the target shut down time of before 11:00pm. Thought I had lots of time when I took the dogs outside. Skunk in yard had other ideas. My boxer/pit saw the skunk and was chasing skunk. I was chasing my dog to try and get it to stop chasing the skunk. It was a merry long chase that luckily ended with no one being skunked with the skunk escaping. As soon as I got my breath back I got the dogs back inside and shut down cumulus, but it was around 11:15. I did however correct the numbers the next day before start up.

I have no idea how to fix this mess this time with all the odd dates and readings.
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Re: Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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How is your station connected to the PC?

Also are the Time and Date correct on the Station Console?

I personally get Cumulus to ignore the Station Clock and 'Rewind' back through the logger.
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The easiest way to fix would be to 'rewind' to a backup from before you closed down on the 4th, but because you have restarted Cumulus so many times today, a suitable backup will no longer exist. You could look at your oldest backup and see if the 'record' files - alltime.ini etc - are still OK, and just copy those.
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The logger interval can be changed using the normally provided software, Heavy Weather.

You can download it from here http://www.heavyweather.info/new_englis ... tup_uk.exe

Remember to shut down Cumulus first however.
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Hi 6719jason, I have got the newest heavy weather (2.0 beta) and going into the setup menu for me there is no option to change the data logging time. The closet thing to the is just 12/24 hour clock.

Okay. I took my oldest backup files and copied them and then pasted over the newer files in the data area. For the most part it has worked. All the 0.00 and 1889's are gone. The only problem now is a reporting of 55.6 for the highest daily temp range for the 5th of Jan. 2012. I am pretty sure that was that days high. So that would mean a 0.00 value of low for that day. Sooo... I am going to let Cumulus run for a bit. Then shut it down and look at yesterdays ini file to see if it has a 0.00 value. If it does and I correct it, will the alltime.ini file automatically correct itself?
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RobertY wrote:Then shut it down and look at yesterdays ini file to see if it has a 0.00 value. If it does and I correct it, will the alltime.ini file automatically correct itself?
No; you'll need to correct the low temperature for yesterday in dayfile.txt - you can use the built in editor. Then you can correct the high daily range. You could find the previous record in alltimelog.txt and then edit alltime.ini using the all-time record editor.
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Re: Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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RobertY wrote:Hi 6719jason, I have got the newest heavy weather (2.0 beta) and going into the setup menu for me there is no option to change the data logging time. The closet thing to the is just 12/24 hour clock.
Right, with Heavy Weather 2.0 open, if you click on the Paper Clip near 'Show History' then click on 'Change Settings' then adjust to suit.

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Thank You Steve. Looks like all is back to normal.
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Re: Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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Thank You 6719jason!

Now I know why I did not find it. I would click that button but change settings would always be grayed out making it hard to see. This time I left the window open for a bit then it all the sudden went to a normal view and I was able to click that option. :)

It is now changed to a 15 minute interval. Thanks!
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Re: Dec 30, 1899 with a lot of 0.00 values

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Your welcome :) Pleased to be of service :lol:

Your station was probably still in communication with the PC and Software so it is normally best to give the two time to communicate first, thus allowing interaction later :bash:

Great!
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