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The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Discussion specific to Fine Offset and similar rebadged weather stations
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The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by mcrossley »

... when do you believe them!

This morning my station registered a peak gust of 84 mph when the other gusts around that time were in the mid 30's. My record to date is 38 mph.

So I edited this out of the Cumulus records. But then I looked in the garden and things had been blown around that have never moved in the 25 years we have lived here. And whilst lying in bed this morning the whole house shook at times due to the wind.

I can just about imagine a freak gust, but 84 mph seems excessive.

On another note, my FO external temperature used to be in good agreement with Ray's Davis station down the road a few miles (apart from the peak highs/lows), now is seems to be consistently about 2°C below Ray's. I will have to put another thermometer out there to check if the difference is real, due to the FO changing characteristics and Ray's readings changing for some reason.

Argh! If only I could justify a decent station.
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by steve »

Looking at your graphs, 84 mph does seem unlikely, and where you are I would expect that sort of gust to have caused serious damage locally to trees and buildings etc. But it does seem to be quite an 'interesting' day for weather over just about the whole of the UK!
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by mcrossley »

I agree Steve. Now to edit the WOW and WU records :(

The next thing to check is the time interval of the 'corruption', I suspect that there is a bad memory location that I'm hitting every time round the buffer - in theory every 28d 8h (with a 10min logging interval). I'm away from home now, but I'll check the alltime ini log file when I get home which should provide the evidence.
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by nking »

The weather is certainly worse than I had expected, I've just had two new records (not 84 mph I might add!).

Highest Wind Gust 46.3 mph at 12:01 on 03 January 2012
Highest Wind Speed Average 30.4 mph at 12:04 on 03 January 2012

A heavy band of rain will soon pass over me here and I may get higher gusts just before, I'll let you know if it's in the 80's :)
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by RayProudfoot »

Mark,

Highest I recorded was 39mph around 7:45 as the cold front came through. I imagine the wind in Wilmslow wouldn't be hugely different. What did the airport record?

If you want to check any of your thermometers against my station you're more than welcome.
Cheers,
Ray, Cheshire.

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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by steve »

Peak gust at Ringway seems to be 52 mph.
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Post by RayProudfoot »

steve wrote:Peak gust at Ringway seems to be 52 mph.
I recorded 43mph later this morning so that's reasonably respectable compared to the airport's open spaces.

Mark's 80+ gust is clearly an abberation.

It hasn't been called Ringway for at least 10 years! Manchester International is the fancy new name. :lol:
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

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RayProudfoot wrote:It hasn't been called Ringway for at least 10 years! Manchester International is the fancy new name. :lol:
It had been renamed from Ringway just before I started at Manchester University in the 1970s, and everyone still called it Ringway, so the name just stuck with me.
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RayProudfoot wrote:It hasn't been called Ringway for at least 10 years! Manchester International is the fancy new name. :lol:
Better than naming them after 'celebrity' who left the area as soon as they could.
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Was Steve a celebrity back then? :lol:
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by wikingmarine »

Hi.

My name is Martin and I live in Sweden ( excuase my bad english)
I have a "Fine Offset" WH1080.
Even if the Wind Speed (gust), are much over 30 m/s my station never shows/views more than Wind Speed (gust) 25,4 m/s.
Anybody? Please.
Best regards Martin
www.aquavera.se
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

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wikingmarine wrote:Even if the Wind Speed (gust), are much over 30 m/s my station never shows/views more than Wind Speed (gust) 25,4 m/s.
You are using a very old version of Cumulus.
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

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wikingmarine wrote:Hi.

My name is Martin and I live in Sweden ( excuase my bad english)
I have a "Fine Offset" WH1080.
Even if the Wind Speed (gust), are much over 30 m/s my station never shows/views more than Wind Speed (gust) 25,4 m/s.
Anybody? Please.
Best regards Martin
http://www.aquavera.se
Does it show higher wind speeds on the console?
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by aquavera »

Hi.

Yes I know I use an old version. Maybe it will work better if I upgrade?

Yes the Displayconsole shows/views up to 35 m/s,,,but on the site only 25,4 m/s gust (had never been over that value, even in "hurrican"

BR//Martin
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Re: The trouble with Fine Offsets is...

Post by steve »

aquavera wrote:Yes I know I use an old version. Maybe it will work better if I upgrade?
Hopefully, yes; that problem was fixed over two years ago.
Steve
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