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Wind Run definition

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Wind Run definition

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I've been looking and cannot find a definition of Wind Run that I understand. As someone who has literally spent his life on/next to the ocean, it's a term I never head before. Can someone help me understand?

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Re: Wind Run definition

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I don't think I can explain it any better than the description in the wiki, perhaps someone else could have a try. It's just another way of looking at the average speed.
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Hi,

I'll try..... If you were in a hot air balloon this would be the distance you travelled using the force of the wind. I hope this makes sense.

Here is a link which will help. http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&newwindo ... 84&bih=897
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steve wrote:I don't think I can explain it any better than the description in the wiki, perhaps someone else could have a try. It's just another way of looking at the average speed.
Fair enough.

Currently my wind run is showing 143.6. Does that mean the wind has averaged 5.98 for the last 24 hours, regardless of direction? Would that be a fair description?

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Swede wrote:Currently my wind run is showing 143.6. Does that mean the wind has averaged 5.98 for the last 24 hours
That's the right principle, but the figure is since midnight, so it's whatever that works out at for however many hours it is since midnight where you are.
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Thanks, Steve. I get it now. Sometimes (often) I'm pretty dense. {sigh}

I'll post a definition on http://www.SwedesDock.com/Weather.

Later: Would this be fair?
Wind Run is (effectively) how many miles you would have traveled since midnight were you effiiciently powered by the wind.


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Yes, that sounds OK.
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Swede wrote:Thanks, Steve. I get it now. Sometimes (often) I'm pretty dense. {sigh}

I'll post a definition on http://www.SwedesDock.com/Weather.

Later: Would this be fair?
Wind Run is (effectively) how many miles you would have traveled since midnight were you effiiciently powered by the wind.
No - not correct - the word you should use is DISTANCE not MILES - but in this instance:

Wind Run is (effectively) how (many miles) far you would have traveled since midnight if were you effiiciently powered by the wind.

The other problem with that description is that an un-named assumption uis being made as to your mode of travel (boat, balloon, feather, parachute - no not being funny about it - just pointing out it doesn't say WHAT you may have used to be powered by the wind).

There are already a number of definitions of WIND RUN available on the net - these are just a few at the top of the 132,000,000 returned when you google 'wind run':

http://westjuneau.com/weather/windrun.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_run

Personally - I would go with either of these rather than trying to invent yet another description of what 'wind run' means.
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serowe wrote:
Swede wrote:No - not correct - the word you should use is DISTANCE not MILES - but in this instance:

Wind Run is (effectively) how (many miles) far you would have traveled since midnight if were you effiiciently powered by the wind.

The other problem with that description is that an un-named assumption uis being made as to your mode of travel (boat, balloon, feather, parachute - no not being funny about it - just pointing out it doesn't say WHAT you may have used to be powered by the wind).
It's presumed to be using a mode of travel as fast as the wind, of which there may be a number.
There are already a number of definitions of WIND RUN available on the net - these are just a few at the top of the 132,000,000 returned when you google 'wind run':

http://westjuneau.com/weather/windrun.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_run

Personally - I would go with either of these rather than trying to invent yet another description of what 'wind run' means.
For the record, I did Google but saw none that were clear to me. It's fair to say though I did not read all 132,000,000. That said, I'll go with the one from Davis. Thank you.

Personally, as to inventing definitions,I think if one does not understand something, he should state it in terms he does understand. Otherwise he's little more than a parrot.

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However, you are assuming people are thinking the say way you are wrt to how they can travel on the wind. Your personal thinking (bias?) was already showing by stating 'miles' instead of allowing for the rest of the world that uses kilometres.

That said - you obviously have the choice as to whether to 'invent a meaning' - this doesn't mean it is right or applicable in all situations, it just adds more confusion to something that isn't already well defined. Although I personally do not like wikipedia, the definition there is probably the clearest of many I have read over many years of meteorological observations (just for the record - this dates back to 1976 so no, I am not a 'newbie' in terms of met work...)
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serowe wrote:That said - you obviously have the choice as to whether to 'invent a meaning' - this doesn't mean it is right or applicable in all situations, it just adds more confusion to something that isn't already well defined. Although I personally do not like wikipedia, the definition there is probably the clearest of many I have read over many years of meteorological observations (just for the record - this dates back to 1976 so no, I am not a 'newbie' in terms of met work...)
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So now you have piqued my curiosity - why did you even bother asking others in the first place then? Obviously you aren't prepared to believe what anyone else has already written on such a meaning, so why? (Don't worry - the thought police will soon jump in on this...)
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