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Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012 11:39 am
by duke
Since this thread is getting somewhat very very long/large, I have asked Mark to start another thread where more technical information about the SteelSeries Gauges, such as customisation of the gauges or the page that contains the gauges, could be discussed, passed along, shared.
Great idea
Sign me up.
Duke
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012 11:11 pm
by mcrossley
Maybe if someone wants to start one I'll join in!
Meantime I have been working on v1.6.0...
This will have an optional Solar Rad gauge (as well as the UV). It will include a ccr template in the zip for WD users. It is all coded and seems to be working well.
What I am less sure of is how to layout 10 (or 9, or 8 ) gauges.
(O) = optional gauge
OOOO
OOOO
(O)(O)
or (current layout with an extra gauge tagged on)
OOO
OOO
OO(O)(O)
or maybe
OOO
OOOO
O(O)(O)
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 1:00 am
by tobyspond
Mark,
I have ten gauges laid out a 3-2-3-2 pattern. Of your choices the first or the third look good.
Kerry
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 7:11 am
by duke
I think there needs to be an "option" of only three gauges wide as four wide looks a bit squashed and small for those of us with a norrower page (menu bar on the side).
Duke
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 10:03 pm
by gwheelo
OOO
OOOO
O(O)(O)
Mark - Enough already! You have given us several good examples to work from. Don't do every bodies work. May I suggest you package new gauges - for instance the Radar Gauge with the appropriate code and expect us integrate them in our own designs. I think this will add to the creative minds on this forum and provide valuable options. Tables are one way to handle page layout - and divs another - in fact many of us need to understand divs and other html layout tools a bit better as they seem to be the preferred layout method for today's page design.
GW
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 10:21 pm
by mcrossley
OK, after 1.6 I'll stop adding new stuff to the base package. It was always meant to be a sample for people to take and modify anyway.
I think I will go with this layout:
OOO
OOO
OO
XX
and let people mangle the layout how they like.
Div's are a more modern layout method, and it allows you arrange the gauges in more imaginative ways. The gauges-ssAlt.htm uses div's in this way to pack the gauges more densely. I don't plan on updating that page though - that is an exercise for the reader.
I attempted to generate some interest in creating alternative layouts in another thread, but it didn't really go anywhere.
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 11:09 pm
by gemini06720
Mark, as stated by George, enough is enough - leave some of the page design to the user - do not worry (or even think) about another page layout - the one presently available within the template 'gauges-ssT.htm' is good enough (even better than good) - if a user does not like the way the gauges are displayed, then it is up to that user to re-arrange the way the gauges are displayed on his/her page, even searching the Internet if that user's knowledge of HTML programming is null to limited ... as stated into an online article I was reading recently "...with the technology now-a-day so readily available, not knowing about something is just a sign of laziness...".
As you stated "...and let people mangle the layout how they like..."
mcrossley wrote:I attempted to generate some interest in creating alternative layouts in another thread, but it didn't really go anywhere.
Mark, are you referring to the
SteelSeries Radar Plot thread or was that another thread - I think the 'radar plot' title might have been a bit too specific to attract much interest - I think the new
SteelSeries Solutions thread might/will attract more interest (thank you GeorgeW) - I am already there, am I not...

Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 11:34 pm
by mcrossley
Ray, I meant this thread
https://cumulus.hosiene.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6862 but what I really wanted that to turn into was people producing actual HTML
Re. the Solar Radiation gauge, I am going to set the max scale value to 1400 W/m² as the maximum theoretical value outside the atmosphere is around 1374 W/m². However I see many Davis stations reporting up around 1800! (via googling station records) Shouldn't they be calibrated in some way to avoid that either on the base station or via software?
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 12:22 am
by gemini06720
Oops, I had forgotten about the
SteelSeries Layouts thread...
Well, I guess, with your assistance, we, together as a group, could use the
SteelSeries Solutions to continue (where the other thread has left off) and advance/evolve/mature/progress with the design and presentation of the SteelSeries Gauges...
Re: Solar Radiation and the Davis Solar Radiation Sensor (for the Vantage Pro2 weather stations) - Mark, as a possible reference, I attached the technical documentation for the solar radiation sensor. I do not know why Davis Instruments chose such a high value for the maximum level of radiation (the maximum being 1800 W/m²) (they might have been planning for future sales to the residents of Venus

) - I do not think calibration adjustments would make much of a difference between 1400 W/m² and 1800 W/m² as the weather console would still display the four digits ... or am I missing something about your interrogation (remember, I am having one of those 'blond' days

)
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 8:28 am
by broadstairs
gemini06720 wrote:
Re: Solar Radiation and the Davis Solar Radiation Sensor (for the Vantage Pro2 weather stations) - Mark, as a possible reference, I attached the technical documentation for the solar radiation sensor. I do not know why Davis Instruments chose such a high value for the maximum level of radiation (the maximum being 1800 W/m²) (they might have been planning for future sales to the residents of Venus

) - I do not think calibration adjustments would make much of a difference between 1400 W/m² and 1800 W/m² as the weather console would still display the four digits ... or am I missing something about your interrogation (remember, I am having one of those 'blond' days

)
Having spent quite some time working on improving solar values on another software product I became aware that the Davis solar sensor can often read far too high and at least in part it is because it records global solar radiation which can often be, and commonly is, affected by reflections from clouds and any other reflective surfaces, and I also suspect those extremely high readings are from locations are probably at higher altitudes.
Stuart
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 10:06 am
by mcrossley
broadstairs wrote:
Having spent quite some time working on improving solar values on another software product I became aware that the Davis solar sensor can often read far too high and at least in part it is because it records global solar radiation which can often be, and commonly is, affected by reflections from clouds and any other reflective surfaces, and I also suspect those extremely high readings are from locations are probably at higher altitudes.
Stuart
I think I noticed oddly that stations in the tropical regions had lower max readings than stations at higher latitudes. Now that could well have been because the sub-tropical stations were low lying islands and the high reading stations were at higher altitudes as you suggest. I just found it odd, if I had a station with a solar rad meter I would question why I was getting such high readings and attempt some sort of software calibration.
Still I have problems as what to set the gauge max to, leave it at 1400 and some sites will overflow the gauge. Put it up to 1800 and most sites will only use half the range. Or go to effort of making it auto-range

Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 10:28 am
by gemini06720
mcrossley wrote:Still I have problems as what to set the gauge max to, leave it at 1400 and some sites will overflow the gauge. Put it up to 1800 and most sites will only use half the range. Or go to effort of making it auto-range

Mark, make the default maximum value part of the 'gauges.js' settings, such as:
Code: Select all
...
var g_showSolarGauge = true; //Display the solar radiation gauge
var g_showSolarMax = 1400; //Maximum solar radiation value (default 1400 W/m²)
...
maxValue : g_showSolarMax;
...
So, if I prefer to use the default value of my weather station, then I only need to change the value to 1800. Please do not bother to make that an auto-range value as, for most users, the value of 1400 will never be exceeded.
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 1:38 pm
by mcrossley
An obvious idea Ray, I'll do that.
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 6:28 pm
by mcrossley
Version 1.6.0 posted - phew!
A lot of changes in this one - make sure you read readme and catch them all.
Re: SteelSeries Gauges - version 1.0
Posted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 8:38 pm
by duke
Slight problem with the latest realease, probably me as I have not updated the Gauges files for some time, am I missing something under my nose?
TEXT FILE CURRUPTED, RETRYING..........
http://www.nightingaleweather.co.uk/weather/gauges.php
I have obviously updated realtimegaugesT.txt
Duke