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PVC Anenometer Mast
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Re: PVC Anenometer Mast
That won't be going anywhere.
How easy to drop down?
How easy to drop down?
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Is that pole earthed? If not - goodbye equipment..on top of the pole and anything attached to it.GraemeT wrote:I've used a 5metre length of 32mm aluminium tubing. It's mounted 2 metres up, stabilised using three 2mm stainless guy ropes.
Still waiting to see if it works as a lightning attractor...so far, so good.
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I saw someone mention they were worried about wobble with pvc.
Have you thought of putting wooden dowel inside the pvc and seal end with a cap or sealant.
Ron
Have you thought of putting wooden dowel inside the pvc and seal end with a cap or sealant.
Ron
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Re: PVC Anenometer Mast
Terry,
I don't plan on pulling down too often, but it's just a short climb up the ladder to do so.
I don't plan on pulling down too often, but it's just a short climb up the ladder to do so.
Cheers,
Graeme.
Graeme.
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I hadn't thought of a wooden dowel, but that's an interesting idea. I did fill the PVC pipe with sandbox sand, and it made it slightly more stable, although it also got heavier. Not sure if the slight increase in stability outweighed the extra strain the added weight puts on the mounting post. Perhaps a combination of sandbox sand and a dowel in the top half???CheroKiwi wrote:I saw someone mention they were worried about wobble with pvc.
Have you thought of putting wooden dowel inside the pvc and seal end with a cap or sealant.
Ron
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Sand is going to make it a lot more dangerous. Apart from the weight which the pipe was not manufactured to withstand, it is also most likely to absord water trickling doen from the top and, unjless you close off the bottom, will simply run out the bottom taking with it the sand.
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Both ends of the pipe have been capped. I'll wait and see if there is decreased swaying. If not, I'll empty the sand and try several wooden dowels.serowe wrote:Sand is going to make it a lot more dangerous. Apart from the weight which the pipe was not manufactured to withstand, it is also most likely to absord water trickling doen from the top and, unjless you close off the bottom, will simply run out the bottom taking with it the sand.
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Again keep in mind you want rigidity with minimum weight - dowels offer this, sand is definately not rigid. All it is, in this case, is ballast and a dampener i.e. it is still very flexible and therefore liable to bend - especially under stress.
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I found 4' long wooden dowels that fit perfectly inside the PVC tube (not loose enough to rattle around, but not so tight that I needed a hammer to get them in there). Inside my 10' PVC pipe, I inserted 2 and 1/2 dowels, then I capped both ends of the pipe.
The weight of the pipe and swaying is significantly reduced. Not perfect, but much better, and I suspect much sturdier than before. As far as the swaying issue, I'm limited by the weakest link in the chain, which in this case is the wooden mailbox post that everything is mounted to.
Thanks for all the advice. Anybody need a big bag of sandbox sand???

-Tom
The weight of the pipe and swaying is significantly reduced. Not perfect, but much better, and I suspect much sturdier than before. As far as the swaying issue, I'm limited by the weakest link in the chain, which in this case is the wooden mailbox post that everything is mounted to.
Thanks for all the advice. Anybody need a big bag of sandbox sand???

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Should have mentioned one way to 'join' multiple dowel pieces is by using some silicone dabbed on the end of one, then pushing the next section in until it 'bites'. Do the same all along and whilst not as rigid as the dowel itself, can help to also form a seal.krmidas wrote:I found 4' long wooden dowels that fit perfectly inside the PVC tube (not loose enough to rattle around, but not so tight that I needed a hammer to get them in there). Inside my 10' PVC pipe, I inserted 2 and 1/2 dowels, then I capped both ends of the pipe.
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Re: PVC Anenometer Mast
FYI.
I've just foud this place on the net based in the UK , that has cheap circular and square tubes.
http://www.aluminiumwarehouse.co.uk/Alu ... fAodzHFDxw
I currently have the main part of my mast as a large alumimium pole, with an additional 3/4" steel crome plated
pole fixed to it. Which has already started to corrode, due to dissimilar metals.
So I think I will buy a Aluminium Round Tube 3/4 in x 16 swg 2500mm (£2.83), to replace the top section of my mast
to keep both poles Aluminium.
I was debating whether to just buy a large square pole of 5000mm, but decided against it as I would have
to get it delievered to my work, and then try and get it in my car to get it home which would never work
I've just foud this place on the net based in the UK , that has cheap circular and square tubes.
http://www.aluminiumwarehouse.co.uk/Alu ... fAodzHFDxw
I currently have the main part of my mast as a large alumimium pole, with an additional 3/4" steel crome plated
pole fixed to it. Which has already started to corrode, due to dissimilar metals.
So I think I will buy a Aluminium Round Tube 3/4 in x 16 swg 2500mm (£2.83), to replace the top section of my mast
to keep both poles Aluminium.
I was debating whether to just buy a large square pole of 5000mm, but decided against it as I would have
to get it delievered to my work, and then try and get it in my car to get it home which would never work
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That's the firm I get my aluminium from. Great value and quick delivery but they do charge £15 delivery which means you want to get a decent sized order together to make good overall VFM.
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Terry,Super-T wrote:Yes, the square section works well for me with no guy ropes required. I image a triangular section would work as well if not better than square but it's a bit hard to find a triangular extrusion over 5 metres long
Triangular would be less wind resistance too.
I may go for a 5000mm 40x40 Aluminium pole now having read how yours
does not wobble around, rather than having two round poles attached.
Can you let me know what wall thickness your 40x40 square section is?
I guess it would be either 3.25mm (10 swg) or 1.6mm (16 swg)
Just want to make sure I get something that is not going to need
me to use guy ropes etc..
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Planning on putting up a 5 metre pole (regardless of shape) without guys is a law suit waiting to happen. Not to mention the it isn't going to be stable enough to ensure any data collected from the top of it is accurate - it WILL move around which means any woind data from instrument(s) on top of it will not be stable and can only be taken with a grain of salt as to their accuracy.
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I can't remember the gauge but Looking at the base of the mast from underneath it looks to be about 3mm. I'll see if I can find the invoice for the Aluminium.
Wind movement isn't a problem and even if it was, how accurate is a Fine Offset anyway? I prefer the "pinch of salt" measurements as they are, because in the local environment there are to many variables anyway.
Wind movement isn't a problem and even if it was, how accurate is a Fine Offset anyway? I prefer the "pinch of salt" measurements as they are, because in the local environment there are to many variables anyway.