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Cumulus 1.9.1 does not work on Netbooks with Win starter 7

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Cumulus 1.9.1 does not work on Netbooks with Win starter 7

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I downloaded Cumulus 1.9.1 today for my Netbook and does not load at all. 1.9.0 works fine, but 1.9.1 won't even load? I bought this up before, but my Laptop finally packed up, so now using my Netbook. So wondering why it not working?

I bought this up before Steve, but lost the reply due to Laptop stopped working.
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Re: Cumulus 1.9.1 does not work on Netbooks with Win starter 7

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I know very little about Windows 7 starter, but I assume they have taken something out which the Cumulus beta requires. It doesn't look like they really intend it to be running this kind of software. If you zip up the diags logs and attach them, I'll see what I can find.
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steve wrote:I know very little about Windows 7 starter, but I assume they have taken something out which the Cumulus beta requires. It doesn't look like they really intend it to be running this kind of software. If you zip up the diags logs and attach them, I'll see what I can find.
The diags folder is empty and going to where the backup, data files that are hidden there is nothing.

Running the windows task manager it shows Cumulus running in processors. There are more and more people running netbooks these days.
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Re: Cumulus 1.9.1 does not work on Netbooks with Win starter 7

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denodan wrote:The diags folder is empty and going to where the backup, data files that are hidden there is nothing.
You've installed under Program Files?
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Re: Cumulus 1.9.1 does not work on Netbooks with Win starter 7

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Windows 7 Starter has a limit to the number of applications that can run concurrently. Maybe that is the issue?

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tjaliwalpa wrote:Windows 7 Starter has a limit to the number of applications that can run concurrently. Maybe that is the issue?

Bob
It used to be limited to 4 applications, but the limit has now been dropped. As more people use netbooks, then Cumulus will need to be looked at, as more and more people are turning to netbooks rather then laptops nowdays.

Maybe Steve needs to borrow one, or get one and see why it's not running on netbooks? Yet 1.9.0 version runs no problem.
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denodan wrote:There are more and more people running netbooks these days.
That might be true, I have one myself, but using it for a 7x24 weather station processing is a bit of a stretch for one. They are not designed to run 7x24 which is why they are much less expensive than regular sized notebooks.

My netbook runs WinXP as I never bothered to move it over to Win7. I would not use the Win7 Starter Edition though, it is too crippled for real use.

My new tablet which arrives shortly uses Win7Pro, but again, I would not run my weather station on it.
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denodan wrote:
tjaliwalpa wrote:Windows 7 Starter has a limit to the number of applications that can run concurrently. Maybe that is the issue?

Bob
It used to be limited to 4 applications, but the limit has now been dropped. As more people use netbooks, then Cumulus will need to be looked at, as more and more people are turning to netbooks rather then laptops nowdays.

Maybe Steve needs to borrow one, or get one and see why it's not running on netbooks? Yet 1.9.0 version runs no problem.
I was thinking along the lines of some of the diags abd bug monitoring that is part of the current beta releases being the problem. As you suggest, Steve may have more of an idea about why it won't run.

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Re: Cumulus 1.9.1 does not work on Netbooks with Win starter 7

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tjaliwalpa wrote:I was thinking along the lines of some of the diags abd bug monitoring that is part of the current beta releases being the problem. As you suggest, Steve may have more of an idea about why it won't run.
I really haven't a clue, particularly as it doesn't seem to be getting as far as creating the diags file. I'd have to download the OS from MSDN and install it in Virtual PC and I don't know when I'll find time to do that; there's absolutely no chance of me borrowing or buying a netbook. I guess people who want to run Cumulus on W7 Starter will have to use 1.9.0 for the foreseeable future.
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TNETWeather wrote:
denodan wrote:There are more and more people running netbooks these days.
That might be true, I have one myself, but using it for a 7x24 weather station processing is a bit of a stretch for one. They are not designed to run 7x24 which is why they are much less expensive than regular sized notebooks.

My netbook runs WinXP as I never bothered to move it over to Win7. I would not use the Win7 Starter Edition though, it is too crippled for real use.

My new tablet which arrives shortly uses Win7Pro, but again, I would not run my weather station on it.
Others may find it interesting that I run Cumulus on the equivalent of a Netbook, a MSI EeeBox with 2Gb RAM and running Windows 7 Home. While it runs 24x7, I found I had to restart it every 12 hrs or it lost its Internet connection (wireless). As to why, I have no idea. It could have been something to do with the wireless router. The restarts have been set in Task manager to 8 hours to be safe.

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Bob,

While you are talking about a similar processor, power requirements etc.. it is how it is designed and built that is the difference.

Your Nettop is designed to run like a workstation.

Netbooks are cheap versions of a notebooks (display, keyboard, mouse pad, chargeable battery, and designed to be small, lightweight and portable). The MTBF rates of most netbooks is horrible unless you are using a higher end one and most people don't buy those because full sized Notebooks are less expensive.

Most of the failure components (Screen, keyboard, Mouse) on your nettop are replaceable because they are separate components.
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tjaliwalpa wrote:
Others may find it interesting that I run Cumulus on the equivalent of a Netbook, a MSI EeeBox with 2Gb RAM and running Windows 7 Home. While it runs 24x7, I found I had to restart it every 12 hrs or it lost its Internet connection (wireless). As to why, I have no idea. It could have been something to do with the wireless router. The restarts have been set in Task manager to 8 hours to be safe.

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Hi Bob,
about your (wireless connection turns off) My dad had this problem on a HP laptop and I found out that it was a setting in Device Manager under Wifi settings in power management that was turning it off so I put it to disabled and now it stays on now.

I hope this helps.
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Post by SUBYDAZZ »

I have a nettop ad it runs 24x7 (so Cumulus can stream data to websites) and all Cumulus Betas run with no dramas at all. It has XP SP3, which is a downgrade option I'd consider. Why not upgrade to Windows 7 home premium if you think it the Windows version that's the issue?

I'd be interested as to why the 1.9.1 betas don't work but the stable version 1.9.0 does. Did the update complete properly?
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Re: Cumulus 1.9.1 does not work on Netbooks with Win starter

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I know this is an old post. However, I can't find more recent info.
My question: Does the recent Cumulus version (1.9.2) work with Windows 7 Starter?
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Re: Cumulus 1.9.1 does not work on Netbooks with Win starter

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henkg wrote:My question: Does the recent Cumulus version (1.9.2) work with Windows 7 Starter?
I'm not aware of anyone reporting the results one way or the other. And if it doesn't, there's nothing I can do unless someone can work out why it doesn't. Looking at the list of features that they've stripped out to make it, there's nothing obvious in there that would stop Cumulus working.
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