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Uploading stored overnight data to Wunderground

Discussion and questions about Cumulus weather station software version 1. This section is the main place to get help with Cumulus 1 software developed by Steve Loft that ceased development in November 2014.
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Re: Uploading stored overnight data to Wunderground

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beteljuice wrote:Surely if you are uploading 'historic' to WU, it must be because Cumulus was off - So won't the last record be 'current' anyway when Cumulus is restarted and caught up with station logs ?
WU works to a resolution of 1 minute. The latest archive/logger entry could be anything between a second old and not quite N minutes old, where N is your station logger interval. If it's less than 10 minutes old, WU will timestamp it with the current time instead of the logger time, giving it a timestamp which is potentially up to 10 minutes late. It probably doesn't matter...
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[/quote]We'll just have to accept that the last upload from the archive may be timestamped a few minutes late.[/quote]

To me that would not be a problem since the having the ability to up load several hours of overnight data would far out weigh a time stamp issue on the last entry.

I did enjoy this small insight into how the update works and running the browser test. It will interesting to see WU reply to the time stamp issue.

Thanks again for working on this.

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Like WD40, I think the benefits of being able to upload a missed day or two's records, or even just overnight, would far outweigh the mistiming of the final record by up to 10 mins.

But in any event, since the chances are that when this upload is being done the station will now be live, as an option couldn't the most recent record simply be omitted form the historical catch-up so the user could opt to prefer the risk of a single missing record rather than a mis-time done if they felt that were preferable.

Mine is on 24/7 but for the occasions when there has been a loss of network link or Cumulus has hung for some reason, it would be very useful just to have a manual 'Upload History' option with selectable endpoints to the period that is uploaded. (Maybe with a warning if it overlaps with records that already exist, but that would be icing on the cake!)

I would also like to know if there is a way to force Cumulus to reload recent history from a Fine Offset station when for some reason it hasn't read out the data for some hours. Mine has done this twice, for some reason getting a 'stuck' set of readings every 5 mins over a 36 hour period even though Easy Weather shows a valid set of history data.

If this isn't a current feature or there isn't an easy way to hack an ini/data file to trick Cumulus into reloading recent data, I'd like to add it to the wishlist!

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Re: Uploading stored overnight data to Wunderground

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alexgray wrote:Like WD40, I think the benefits of being able to upload a missed day or two's records, or even just overnight, would far outweigh the mistiming of the final record by up to 10 mins.
I'm going to go with it as it is for now, just uploading all of the history and letting WU do its strange thing with the last one. Perhaps at some point in the future there could be more options for tweaking it. WU still haven't got back to me to say whether it's intentional or a bug.
I would also like to know if there is a way to force Cumulus to reload recent history from a Fine Offset station when for some reason it hasn't read out the data for some hours.
The ideal way is to use one of the backups and get Cumulus to continue from that point (copy the files from the appropriate backup folder into the data folder); then everything will be consistent. If that's not convenient (latest backup too old or whatever), just edit the 'timestamp' in the today.ini file before starting Cumulus, but note that you may then need to do some tidying of the log files for duplicates etc.
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The ideal way is to use one of the backups and get Cumulus to continue from that point (copy the files from the appropriate backup folder into the data folder); then everything will be consistent.
Brilliant - thanks. That worked like a charm and recovered several days of missing data. And it was fun watching the dials and figures whizz round as they went through the data! Much appreciated.

Now all I have to do is get those records uploaded to Wunderground as per the main thread!

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Re: Uploading stored overnight data to Wunderground

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Cumulus Beta V1.91 installed on W7, using Firefox. The back log of data uploaded perfectly. That last entry was as Steve noted, the current time but that might be a good thing if you were looking for the update time.

It didn't work the first time but I feel like it was something I did wrong. I closed Cumulus, restarted W7 then waited and hour to turn on Cumulus and it worked just fine. I waited fifteen minutes on the first try. It could very well be I didn't wait long enough.

:D

Thanks Mr. Steve.

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Re: Uploading stored overnight data to Wunderground

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Did the first overnight upload this morning. How nice it was to see all the graphs and data filled out.

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