Export to WeatherLink

[rick044]

Hi all,
I see a lot of information about exporting from weatherlink into Cumulus, what I want to look at doing is the reverse. I want to get all my data up into weatherlink. Anyone done this or is it even possible?

Thanks

[mcrossley]

I do not recall anyone doing this, but you never know...

[GlueGuy]

In the Wiki, the page about Weatherlink Live talks about "On wl.com open your user profile, you will see a section titled API Key v2", but navigating to WL.com yields the website https://wlco.no/, which is some kind of Maritime Innovation website in Norway.

I am confused.

[mcrossley]

wl.com = weatherlink.com

[De Hout]

https://www.weatherlink.com/account

[GlueGuy]

wl.com = weatherlink.com

Ah. A tiny bit of information.

Can anyone update the Wiki (e.g. me)?

[freddie]

Can anyone update the Wiki (e.g. me)?

Done.

[GlueGuy]

Well thank you very much for doing that!

As I read through the instructions, does changing the station type to Davis WLL eliminate the other 3rd party uploads I'm currently using with Davis Vantage Pro 2 (e.g. Wunderground, Windy, PWS , Met Office, CWOP, etc.)?

[PaulMy]

does changing the station type to Davis WLL eliminate the other 3rd party uploads I'm currently using with Davis Vantage Pro 2 (e.g. Wunderground, Windy, PWS , Met Office, CWOP, etc.)?

No. All the Third party uploads can continue, no difference in what station type you use.

Enjoy,
Paul

[GlueGuy]

Stumbling along here.

Running Cumulus MX 3.28.6 b3283.

I entered the key and secret on the weatherlink.com website, and put that information into the settings in CMX. The UI indicated that if I did not have a stationID, to leave it alone, so I left it at "-1".

However, when CMX restarted, I got the following in the log:

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2024-11-10 17:48:26.952 Station type = Davis WLL
2024-11-10 17:48:27.931 No WeatherLink API station ID in the cumulus.ini file
2024-11-10 17:48:28.435 WLL - The WeatherLink.com API is enabled, but no Station Id has been configured, not starting the station. Please correct this and restart Cumulus

Worse; when I access the dashboard, I get all zeros in the display.

I did try changing the stationID to "1", but got the same result.

So I changed it back to Davis VP2 to get running again.

[PaulMy]

What device(s) is doing the upload to Weatherlink.com and how?

Enjoy,
Paul

[GlueGuy]

What device(s) is doing the upload to Weatherlink.com and how?

Color me confused. I thought the WLL part of CMX was supposed to be doing the upload.

Back in the day with Cumulus 1, I could not run both Cumulus and the Davis weather app at the same time. There was something about 2 simultaneous accesses to the weather station (it's been a while circa ~~ 2010).

My PC does not run all the time; only about 8 hours a day. If I need to keep the PC running to have WLL, then I guess I am barking up the wrong tree.

[mcrossley]

Running Cumulus MX 3.28.6 b3283.

I entered the key and secret on the weatherlink.com website, and put that information into the settings in CMX. The UI indicated that if I did not have a stationID, to leave it alone, so I left it at "-1".

However, when CMX restarted, I got the following in the log:

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2024-11-10 17:48:26.952 Station type = Davis WLL
2024-11-10 17:48:27.931 No WeatherLink API station ID in the cumulus.ini file
2024-11-10 17:48:28.435 WLL - The WeatherLink.com API is enabled, but no Station Id has been configured, not starting the station. Please correct this and restart Cumulus

After the "No WeatherLink API station ID in the cumulus.ini file" MX should have tried to retrieve a list of station ids from weatherlink.com, and if there was only one, start using that. If more than one output a message telling to pick one from the list provided. However, there is nothing!

I would need to see a full log file with debug and data logging enabled to look any deeper, plus its harder looking at old versions of MX

[PaulMy]

I was too long in replying and see that in the meantime Mark has replied. However I will still send my boring response.

Color me confused. I thought the WLL part of CMX was supposed to be doing the upload.

If you have the Weatherlink Live (WLL) devices then this device uploads to your WLL account at Weatherlink.com (WL.com), independent from CMX.
Then in CumulusMX station settings you would choose station type Weatherlink Live. With this configuration CumulusMX can access the near live data from the WLL stream, and also regularly checks your WL.com site for additional data. The WLL uploads to WL.com automatically (no need to have CMX running). When you restart CMX it will access WL.com for historical archived data for the period that CMX was not running, BUT ONLY if you have a WL.com Pro (paid subscription) account. If yours is a basic free account CMX will not be able to access the historical archived data so will be missing data for the time it was shut down.

Since you also mentioned

I did try changing the stationID to "1", but got the same result.
So I changed it back to Davis VP2 to get running again.

I presume you also have a VP2 console with data logger. Which type of data logger, Serial/USB or IP?

Back in the day with Cumulus 1, I could not run both Cumulus and the Davis weather app at the same time. There was something about 2 simultaneous accesses to the weather station (it's been a while circa ~~ 2010).

Correct, with this console with data logger setup you can only run 1 weather program at the same time - i.e. WeatherlinkPC or Cumulus1 or CumulusMX. When you stop one to run another then these programs would do the archived data from the data logger so that then these programs have all the data.

However the WLL lets you run more than 1 program at the same time (I am currently running 4 CMX on some testing). The difference with WLL is that the archived data is not in your local WLL device but at the Davis cloud WL.com. And as noted above you need a pro subscription to access the historical data.

Also, you can use your console/data setup and WLL at the same time as these are independent of each other.

My PC does not run all the time; only about 8 hours a day. If I need to keep the PC running to have WLL, then I guess I am barking up the wrong tree.

If I am correct in your setup; VP2 with console and datalogger, and running WeatherlinkPC program part of the day, you can then also run CMX part of a day through that console/data logger setup using station type Vantage Pro2 in your CMX settings, but not at the same time that WLPC is running. I presume this is what you had been doing.

And with the additional WLL device you can continue to run WLPC with the console/datalogger connection. And with this you can also have WeatherlinkPC upload to Weatherlink.com. However, this WL.com account uploading from WLPC is different to a WL.com account uploaded by WLL.

And with this WLL device you can run CMX full or part time. And as I noted above, when CMX is running it will access and log the near live data. In this setup CMX will also download the archived data from WLL.com for the period CMX was not running, BUT ONLY if you have a WLL Pro subscription.

I hope I haven't confused you.

Enjoy,
Paul

[GlueGuy]

Thank you for the clarification.

All this time, I was under the presumption that WLL within CMX "took over" the functionality of a WLPC setup.

Back when I first got the Davis VP2, I ran the Davis WLL application, and it was OK, but nothing to write home about. This the VP2 with the data logger plus the IP adapter. Not long after that I discovered Cumulus 1, and switched over to that. At first, I ran it on my PC, but when CMX came along, I switched to a Raspberry Pi running CMX. Way better because I could leave it running 24x7.

The Raspberry Pi runs (headless) in my comm cabinet 24x7, and I really like this setup. Adding the WLL live if I have to download the data from WLL seems pointless.

Sorry for all the confusion. Too bad CMX cannot just upload to WLL. That would be simpler, and much preferrable for me.

Regards,