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Cumulus (Zambretti) forecast never changes
Posted: Mon 01 May 2023 4:19 pm
by ahagadorn
I have the forecast setting for my Vantage Pro2 station set on Cumulus (Zambretti). It never changes, always says "Exceptional Weather, Stormy, much precipitation". Its been like this for months. I have a second instance of Cumulus running for my Weatherflow Tempest station, set the same way, and it shows a pretty accurate variable forecast. The barometer readings between the two stations are pretty consistent.
Any ideas on why this is happening? Can it be reset somehow?
Thanks
Re: Cumulus (Zambretti) forecast never changes
Posted: Mon 01 May 2023 6:07 pm
by freddie
What are your max and min allowable pressures set to? Is your altitude setting correct? How about latitude and longitude? If you have a public website that this instance of MX feeds then a link to that would be useful too.
Re: Cumulus (Zambretti) forecast never changes
Posted: Tue 02 May 2023 2:12 pm
by ahagadorn
freddie wrote: ↑Mon 01 May 2023 6:07 pm
What are your max and min allowable pressures set to? Is your altitude setting correct? How about latitude and longitude? If you have a public website that this instance of MX feeds then a link to that would be useful too.
Min/max pressure is 950/1050 for both instances. Altitude is set the same for both instances, the Tempest setup and the Davis console. Same with lat/long all settings the same for both Cumulus instances and both station setups.
Re: Cumulus (Zambretti) forecast never changes
Posted: Tue 02 May 2023 3:18 pm
by freddie
Okay thank you. The Zambretti algorithm relies on the sea level pressure value supplied, a realistic range of sea level pressures, and also the pressure tendency. If you are happy with the values you are seeing against those parameters then you can rule them out. There is also a dependence on wind direction but I believe this is a smaller contribution than the other parameters.
The algorithm as used by MX is common to all instances of MX so I think that can be ruled out as we are not seeing widespread similar issues.
Therefore I am stumped. If you are positive that all aspects of your configuration that affect the algorithm are okay then I'm unsure what to suggest next.
Re: Cumulus (Zambretti) forecast never changes
Posted: Tue 02 May 2023 4:55 pm
by ahagadorn
freddie wrote: ↑Tue 02 May 2023 3:18 pm
Okay thank you. The Zambretti algorithm relies on the sea level pressure value supplied, a realistic range of sea level pressures, and also the pressure tendency. If you are happy with the values you are seeing against those parameters then you can rule them out. There is also a dependence on wind direction but I believe this is a smaller contribution than the other parameters.
The algorithm as used by MX is common to all instances of MX so I think that can be ruled out as we are not seeing widespread similar issues.
Therefore I am stumped. If you are positive that all aspects of your configuration that affect the algorithm are okay then I'm unsure what to suggest next.
Thanks, I agree with your analysis, so I'm stumped too. I have to be missing something. Only thing I can think of is that some initial value stored somewhere is throwing it off. I even checked the calibration settings - they are also identical.
Re: Cumulus (Zambretti) forecast never changes
Posted: Thu 04 May 2023 9:41 am
by mcrossley
Odd, the Cumulus forecast just uses the pressure, pressure trend, and wind direction as input, and the code to create and use it is common to all station types.
Re: Cumulus (Zambretti) forecast never changes
Posted: Fri 05 May 2023 2:31 pm
by ahagadorn
Well, I fixed it by comparing the Cumulus.ini files between the two instances:
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FCpressinMB=1
FClowpress=950
FChighpress=1050
For the Davis instance, FCpressinMB was set to zero. I changed it to 1 and it worked. How it ever got set to zero, I have no idea.