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[HansR]

Apparently you have the RPi connected with a keyboard and a screen, I have a headless install.
No way I can reproduce what you describe so I can't simply extract by a right mouse click. If I unzip CMX from the command line, the x bit is not set.
I'll await a reply by Mark and maybe continue otherwise I suggest we abandon this at the moment, maybe pick it up some time later off line.

[EDIT] though if I look in the xarchiver (over VNC) I can see the x bit is set for CMX and so it is for CumulusUtils. I don't see a fundamental difference between those two archives.

[freddie]

MX and Cutils are not executed by Linux, so do not need the x bit set - they are executed by mono in the mono environment. It is mono that is executed by Linux (and needs the X bit setting - but that happens on install). I have never had the X bit set on MX or Cutils.

The permissions error you see must be due to something else.

[HansR]

MX and Cutils are not executed by Linux, so do not need the x bit set - they are executed by mono in the mono environment. It is mono that is executed by Linux (and needs the X bit setting - but that happens on install). I have never had the X bit set on MX or Cutils.

The permissions error you see must be due to something else.

When mono is already active (as daemon or from command line in another process) you can start any mono executable without having it prepended by the mono command. As normally (if you did not uninstall it) xsp4 is running as a daemon, mono is always available so you can run mono executables as normal linux executables. You won't notice the difference.

However if you don't have the x bit set, you get access refused when trying to execute.

Without the x bit set you have to prepend mono as in :

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mono utils/bin/cumulusutils.exe

Then it executes without the x bit set because then it is an argument to the mono command.

So it is most likely that Andy has CMX running as a service (where is starts with prepending mono-service) and runs CUtils without the mono command (requiring it to have the x bit set).

(must prepend be precede )

[AndyKF650]

Hi Hans

There gloom has been raised and a solution now found!

Looking at Freddies reply going on about mono and the fact that I do start CMX with a service as described in the MXutils/linux folder which presumably starts CMX under mono. The comment then went on, without actually giving a pathway, to imply that CUtils also needs to run under mono. It makes sense when you stop and think about it.

The answer is to do the initial CUtils website run using sudo mono utils/..... from the CumulusMX folder in terminal session.

The following lines are extracted from the terminal session showing the faulty start process followed by the successful start process

pi@andykpi:~/CumulusMX $ utils/bin/cumulusutils.exe website
bash: utils/bin/cumulusutils.exe: Permission denied
pi@andykpi:~/CumulusMX $ sudo mono utils/bin/cumulusutils.exe website
2022-02-27 11:44:17.898 CumulusUtils version: 6.7.10

Well I think that is another problem solved, what is the next one!

[freddie]

When mono is already active (as daemon or from command line in another process) you can start any mono executable without having it prepended by the mono command. As normally (if you did not uninstall it) xsp4 is running as a daemon, mono is always available so you can run mono executables as normal linux executables. You won't notice the difference.

However if you don't have the x bit set, you get access refused when trying to execute.

Thanks Hans, I did not know this. Every day is a school day

(must prepend be precede )

In this case they are interchangeable. Prepend is "attach to the beginning of something"; precede is "be before something".

[HansR]

(must prepend be precede )

In this case they are interchangeable. Prepend is "attach to the beginning of something"; precede is "be before something".

Thnx, Every is a school day

...what is the next one!

That was the last one

[EDIT] I'll modify the Wiki to clarify this mono commandline subject