Hello Everyone,
This is a first post, so please be understanding of my lack of knowledge!
I've just got what I now understand to be a Fine Offset weather station from Maplin. I've downloaded this fine Cumulus software and am having fun setting it all up. Most things are very well documented, but I can't get my head around the pressure. I have set my recorder up for HPa and absolute pressure, and cumulus indicates a different reading, which I think I have sussed as the same as the Relative reading on the recorder unit, presumably this is adjusted for altitude? Ok fine so far, but why are both these readings here substantially different from those that are shown on the weather charts on the Met office, or BBC sites? The units seem to be the same (HPa).
What settings should I use on Cumulus and the Recorder unit, am I missing something, or is the Barometer faulty?
Many apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, and any help or advise would be greatfully accepted.
Thanks in advance,
Pete.
Welcome to the Cumulus Support forum.
Latest Cumulus MX V4 release 4.4.2 (build 4085) - 12 March 2025
Latest Cumulus MX V3 release 3.28.6 (build 3283) - 21 March 2024
Legacy Cumulus 1 release 1.9.4 (build 1099) - 28 November 2014
(a patch is available for 1.9.4 build 1099 that extends the date range of drop-down menus to 2030)
Download the Software (Cumulus MX / Cumulus 1 and other related items) from the Wiki
If you are posting a new Topic about an error or if you need help PLEASE read this first viewtopic.php?p=164080#p164080
Latest Cumulus MX V4 release 4.4.2 (build 4085) - 12 March 2025
Latest Cumulus MX V3 release 3.28.6 (build 3283) - 21 March 2024
Legacy Cumulus 1 release 1.9.4 (build 1099) - 28 November 2014
(a patch is available for 1.9.4 build 1099 that extends the date range of drop-down menus to 2030)
Download the Software (Cumulus MX / Cumulus 1 and other related items) from the Wiki
If you are posting a new Topic about an error or if you need help PLEASE read this first viewtopic.php?p=164080#p164080
Comparing Pressure with Met Office Observations
-
CandlemanUK
- Posts: 1
- Joined: Tue 15 Dec 2009 4:15 pm
- Weather Station: FineOffset/Maplin
- Operating System: Vista
- Location: Langford, Bedfordshire, UK
- Repairman77
- Posts: 361
- Joined: Sat 17 Oct 2009 3:47 pm
- Weather Station: WH1080
- Operating System: XP pro SP3
- Location: Cambridgeshire UK
Re: Comparing Pressure with Met Office Observations
Hi Pete; this had me fooled as well when I first got my station.
Cumulus reads the Relative pressure data and displays that.
You can alter the relative reading on the console (ignore the absolute).
See the instruction book for how to alter Relative Pressure.
That should then display the correct reading on Cumulus.
However the sensors in these units are not that accurate so you will have to set the Relative pressure value to the Met office or other accurate websites.
Here's a good one...
http://www.xcweather.co.uk/
I've found that site to be one of the most accurate.
Hope that helps,
Mike.
P.S. Can you fill in the Location in your profile so that we know what part of the UK or World you are in; County or State will do.
Cumulus reads the Relative pressure data and displays that.
You can alter the relative reading on the console (ignore the absolute).
See the instruction book for how to alter Relative Pressure.
That should then display the correct reading on Cumulus.
However the sensors in these units are not that accurate so you will have to set the Relative pressure value to the Met office or other accurate websites.
Here's a good one...
http://www.xcweather.co.uk/
I've found that site to be one of the most accurate.
Hope that helps,
Mike.
P.S. Can you fill in the Location in your profile so that we know what part of the UK or World you are in; County or State will do.
Retired Radio and Electronics Engineer residing in Cambridgeshire, UK.
-
callum91
- Posts: 57
- Joined: Sat 07 Nov 2009 7:14 pm
- Weather Station: WMR88
- Operating System: Windows 7
- Location: Oundle, Peterborough
Re: Comparing Pressure with Met Office Observations
Weather stations should always be set to Mean Sea Level pressure.
Any website such as the one mentioned previously which uses METAR reports (airport weather reports) would be fine - just a case of finding the nearest Airport and perhaps waiting for a day when there is high pressure and not much wind about to set it.
However, the Air traffic controllers round down the pressure readings in METAR reports for safety, so an even better source of pressure readings is SYNOP reports (automated weather station reports) which will give you the pressure to the nearest 10th of a millibar (e.g. 1018.9).
In the UK you can locate your nearest SYNOP station here http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/networks/
and then fetch the latest SYNOP report, already decoded, from here http://www.mundomanz.com/meteo_p/byind? ... y_coun&l=1
Any website such as the one mentioned previously which uses METAR reports (airport weather reports) would be fine - just a case of finding the nearest Airport and perhaps waiting for a day when there is high pressure and not much wind about to set it.
However, the Air traffic controllers round down the pressure readings in METAR reports for safety, so an even better source of pressure readings is SYNOP reports (automated weather station reports) which will give you the pressure to the nearest 10th of a millibar (e.g. 1018.9).
In the UK you can locate your nearest SYNOP station here http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/networks/
and then fetch the latest SYNOP report, already decoded, from here http://www.mundomanz.com/meteo_p/byind? ... y_coun&l=1
-
Reentrant
- Posts: 9
- Joined: Sun 13 Dec 2009 8:52 pm
- Weather Station: WS3080
- Operating System: Windows 10
- Location: Basingstoke, Hampshire, UK
Re: Comparing Pressure with Met Office Observations
Is "altimeter" on that site the same as "relative pressure"?Repairman77 wrote: Here's a good one...
http://www.xcweather.co.uk/
I've found that site to be one of the most accurate.
- steve
- Cumulus Author
- Posts: 26672
- Joined: Mon 02 Jun 2008 6:49 pm
- Weather Station: None
- Operating System: None
- Location: Vienne, France
- Contact:
Re: Comparing Pressure with Met Office Observations
Not quite. Altimeter pressure only takes altitude into account, but "relative pressure" is normally MSLP and takes other factors (e.g. temperature) into account. For setting a barometer for meteorological purposes, you should use MSLP.Reentrant wrote:Is "altimeter" on that site the same as "relative pressure"?
Steve