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Unresponsive?

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Does no-one else find the Cumulus user interface unresponsive? Doesn't respond to menu clicks etc? It's been like that for me for a long time, and has recently got much worse (I know why). I had assumed that it was much worse for me than anyone else, so didn't do anything about it. Now, the person testing the WS2300 code for me has mentioned it.

I've changed the way I read the VP/VP2 data, and it has made a vast improvement for me. I've done the same for the WS2300 code and await the results of testing. I can do the same changes for Fine Offset and Oregon Scientific stations, but if no-one is seeing any problems maybe I should leave it alone?
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Re: Unresponsive?

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I've not noticed it... but then, I rarely play with the interface much, most likely a lot less than you do.

The only time I would notice something is if the uploading of the data stopped.
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Re: Unresponsive?

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Mine seems fine. only thing I've been getting is a small error message box with a red box which flashes on the screen as I shut down sometimes. It vanishes before I get a chance to read it and as I don't seem to have any errors I ignore it!
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Re: Unresponsive?

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Interesting. I suspect it's not as noticeable with a VP/VP2 if you're using VirtualVP, as there's no delay waiting for the box to respond.

And possibly the USB connection means Fine Offset users don't see it. Actually, I'd completely forgotten they were driven that way, so this change isn't relevant anyway! The same applies to Oregon Scientific, even thought they're not USB. So I think I don't need to change for those.
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Re: Unresponsive?

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Mine is slow and I am using Virtual VP aswell. It almost gets stuck sometimes, appears to be worse when its uploading which is of course is virtually all the time with rapid fire etc. Not a major problem as you only going into the internet settings occassionally. Virtual VP has also stopped working aswell last night, cant remember the error code, possibley something to do with "lock" but I didnt make a note. Working fine since then ( 24hrs )
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I have noticed that on occasions when requesting a manual upload to the server for instance there is a hang, then trying again in a second it will sometimes work. I'd put it down to coinciding with an update or a data log event. A request for the other options also does the same on occasions it has to be said, even in the new beta version Im now running.
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Re: Unresponsive?

Post by harrym1byt »

Hi Steve,

Yes, I had noticed the unresponsiveness and yes it does seem to be getting worse. It seems to only be during times it is uploading to the web, when it seems to hang for a good while - Fine Offset.

I also notice a slight problem with the latest beta, but not so bad as it was in a previous version...

When I first load Cumulus after it has been off for a while (several hours worth of data to grab from the display) - the downloading data window fails to close at all. Cumulus does not lock up and can be closed via the usual red X button, restarting a second time it behaves normally. I'm not sure, but I don't think the window shows a download progess bar - should it?
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Harry. Ditto to the non-closing download data window after being off overnight....intermittent though.

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Hi Steve,

First time post, so many thanks for the software and keep up the (very dedicated) good work!

I'd been holding back on relating an issue that I consistently experience, but feel that it may be worth considering within this topic of "unresponsiveness" now...

Personally I have only once had a hang on the "downloading data" screen when first restarting Cumulus. What I do suffer from though is a regular failure of Cumulus to gather data. I found the reason to be that the "USB Human Interface Device" becomes unavailable. Basically when I look in device manager I see that this device has errored. Once I exit Cumulus (which prompts the brief pop-up regarding inconsistent application termination), disable the USB HID and then re-enable it, I can restart Cumulus again and it continues to collect data.

Cumulus is running on a PC that is permanently kept switched on. The USB HID can take anywhere between a few minutes and a day to fail.

I'm running 1.8.2 build 460 and my feeling is that earlier versions of Cumulus didn't suffer from this issue but then I could be wrong :)
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On reflection I am getting what is described above through USB. I thought it was my PC and just shut Cumulus and restarted and it was OK. I was getting nervous that it was similar to the Windows 2K fault but data either partially or completely downloads. As I said before the error message that sometimes appears on shutting goes off screen before I can read it.
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Re: Unresponsive?

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Super-T wrote- 'Harry. Ditto to the non-closing download data window after being off overnight....intermittent though.'

It seems to depend on how long Cumulus has been off for and the amount of data it needs to download. This morning after only 9 hours shut down it was fine. During the working week, with 16 + hours shutdown it stuck on screen everytime.
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Re: Unresponsive?

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Regarding the no-closing 'please wait' window. I can't see any way that I'm not telling to close. It's on the same path where all the normal running stuff is started, so it just wouldn't work if it hadn't gone down that path - and I gather it does continue to work behind the 'please wait' window? There must be something preventing the window from closing. Can you confirm whether or not the progress bar does work on those occasions when the window doesn't close?

The unresponsiveness on Fine Offset stations must be a different problem to the one I have just fixed for Davis stations because they are driven in a completely different way. It would be useful to know exactly when it occurs, i.e. is it when reading data from the station, or when uploading to a web site? (the status panel should help indicate this).

The USB device problem - I don't think I have done any changes recently which might have caused this to start happening. I'll have a look to see if I can detect the problem and do anything about it.
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Re: Unresponsive?

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Thanks Steve.
I appreciate that this might be nothing to do with Cumulus but let me know if you need me to supply any more info regarding the USB issue.

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Re: Unresponsive?

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starchild wrote:Thanks Steve.
I appreciate that this might be nothing to do with Cumulus but let me know if you need me to supply any more info regarding the USB issue.

Derek
To begin with, I'm logging all of the possible status events that I can receive for the HID, so maybe we can see what's happening and maybe whether Cumulus is causing it. At least then I'll be able to detect it; whether I can actually do anything about it is another question!

It might be interesting to see if the same problem occurs with easyweather - or do you already know that it does not?
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Re: Unresponsive?

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Actually Steve I only ran Easyweather for a couple of days when I first got my weather station as I quickly found your software and really liked the ease by which I could upload the data to a website. I'll switch back to Easyweather now though and let you know if I experience any USB HID issues.
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