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Is there a way to disable the wind gust ?!

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Re: Is there a way to disable the wind gust ?!

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swyman18 wrote:Just curious if you still plan on releasing a beta this week with the wind cutoff.
Yes :)
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Re: Is there a way to disable the wind gust ?!

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gemini06720 wrote:
Eugen-Oradea wrote:...I really would like to see a weather station, on an affordable price (let's say up to 500 USD), to run flawlessly...
You might be interested by the new Davis Vantage Vue weather station that is listed at $395 USD

Here is the link: http://www.vantagevue.com/

I have not tried the Vantage Vue Wireless Integrated Sensor Suite (which combines a rain collector, a temperature sensor, a humidity sensor, and anemometer/direction vane into a single unit).

But I have been using a Vantage Vue wireless console/receiver for about two months without great satisfaction - my Vantage Vue console picks up the wireless weather data sent by my Vantage Pro2 Plus weather station.
As I understand you have a Vantage Vue console and you receive with it the data transmitted by the VP2 Pro Plus sensors and you said that you used for the last 2 months without great satisfaction.
What do you mean by that ?! Are you not satisfied with this new Vantage Vue console ?
Can you receive with this VV console the radiation and the UV sensors ?
What is your impression about it ?!
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gemini06720 wrote:But I have been using a Vantage Vue wireless console/receiver for about two months without great satisfaction - my Vantage Vue console picks up the wireless weather data sent by my Vantage Pro2 Plus weather station.
Eugen-Oradea wrote:What do you mean by that ?! Are you not satisfied with this new Vantage Vue console ?
Sorry, my mistake - I have been quite satisfied with the Davis Vantage Vue console.

I still prefer the Vantage Pro2 console (the size of the screen as well as the type of buttons), but the Vantage Vue console offers a few additional readings that are not available on the other consoles.
Eugen-Oradea wrote:Can you receive with this VV console the radiation and the UV sensors ?
Indeed, the Vantage Vue will display the data received from a Vantage Pro2 Plus ISS (with both the solar and the UV sensors).

But the Vantage Vue ISS has neither a solar sensor nor a UV sensor - those sensors cannot be installed on the Vantage Vue.
Eugen-Oradea wrote:What is your impression about it ?!
The only unit I am familiar with is the Vantage Vue console and it has been operating properly (and reliably) with the Vantage Pro2 Plus ISS.

But I know nothing of the Vantage Vue ISS, other than having read the documentation...
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Thanks Ray. I would really like to have a VP2 Pro Plus, the only problem is that here in Europe it costs almost 1000 euros, which is quite a lot in these difficult days with all this global economical crisis. But at this price it is the best offer for what it has to offer. It is on on my wishing list and when I will have the opportunity I will buy it.
Vantage Vue is a good solution considering the price, but that integrated sensors suite I don't quite really like, plus it has no alternative for the solar radiation and UV sensors or 24h ventilated shield. I want to invest in a weather station reliable with solar radiation and UV sensors.
I already have 2 La Crosse weather stations which display and store the main weather parameters; temperature, humidity, wind speed and direction and pressure, plus I have an Inspeed Vortex wind sensor.
Greetings, Eugen-Oradea.
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Eugen-Oradea wrote:Thanks Ray.
My pleasure. Sorry about the 'without' in my original message ... I should have read more carefully what I had written... :roll:
Eugen-Oradea wrote:I would really like to have a VP2 Pro Plus, the only problem is that here in Europe it costs almost 1000 euros, which is quite a lot in these difficult days with all this global economical crisis. But at this price it is the best offer for what it has to offer.
Indeed, the Davis Vantage Pro2 Plus is the most expensive weather station ... for a non-professionally-rated weather station in respect to those weather stations costing thousands of dollars/euros.

But, as you indicated, the Vantage Vue might be the little brother/sister of the Vantage Pro2 Plus but having combined all sensors into one plastic unit might make the installation simple but the location (the height where each sensor should theoretically be installed) less than acceptable.

It appears that Davis is trying to compete with all the other (less costly) weather stations with the released of the Vantage Vue.
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This Vantage Vue is something similar to Weather Hawk or to Rainwise, but the last 2 cost way a lot more. I wonder how you can take care of it during the winter, with snow and freezing ice, if you put it on the roof, to have the best air ventilation you can have, otherwise you can't measure the wind speed very accurately if you put it in your back yard at 2 m height.
At least VP2 has the option to put the wind sensor wherever you want and so have the other brands, like La Crosse or Oregon Scientific. Very interesting that latest release of La Crosse, that 2800, with all the sensors transmitting wireless separately, the only problem is the transmission rate, very slow, 13 to 17 seconds. Up to 5 seconds is OK but more is too slow.
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Eugen-Oradea wrote:This Vantage Vue is something similar to Weather Hawk or to Rainwise, but the last 2 cost way a lot more.
The higher cost of the Vantage Vue is probably due to Davis using the same (or very similar) sensors to those found in the higher-cost Vantage Pro2 serie ... I guess ... And Davis has, also, to protect its name and reputation... :|
Eugen-Oradea wrote:I wonder how you can take care of it during the winter, with snow and freezing ice, if you put it on the roof, to have the best air ventilation you can have, otherwise you can't measure the wind speed very accurately if you put it in your back yard at 2 m height.
Here are the installation recommendations for the Vantage Vue: "Ideally, mount the ISS so that it is between 5’ (1.5 m) and 7’ (2.1 m) above the ground in the middle of a gently sloping or flat, regularly mowed grassy or naturally landscaped area that drains well when it rains. You can also mount the ISS on the roof, between 5’ (1.5 m) and 7’ (2.1 m) above the roof surface. For areas with average maximum yearly snow depths over 3’ (0.9 m), mount the ISS at least 2’ (0.6 m) above this depth. ... For optimal wind data, mount the ISS so that the wind cups are at least 7’ (2.1 m) above obstructions such as trees or buildings that may obstruct wind flow. For optimal wind data, you may mount the ISS on a roof, keeping in mind ease of access to the ISS for maintenance and safety considerations. Ideally, mount it so that the wind cups are at least 7’ (2.1 m) above the roof apex. ... The standard for meteorological and aviation applications is to place the anemometer 33’ (10 m) above the ground."

Confused! So am I! If one is to follow all/any of those recommendations "to the letter", then one would have to move to an area where there are no tree or any other object that could affect either the rain or the wind ... but then, that would describe most newer residential areas where everything has been destroyed to make way for family dwellings... ;)
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In other words you can't eat your cake and still have it. :D
But there is a big step forward, with the new Vantage Vue you can save 200 USD and have almost the same performances like a VP2 simple. It depends of what you want, to try to respect the accuracy of the standard meteorological measurement or just to measure it the best way you can.
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I introduced the LCMaxWind... and a new adapter and after so many days one happy blow, this wind gust is really a nonsense, I really would like to know how is it calculated because on the console there is no wind gust at all and the maximum wind speed is 19 km/h and I have an almost 90 km/h wind gust when the wind was only 8 or 9 km/h.
If there would be a way I would gladly give up this wind gust for good.
Regards, Eugen-Oradea
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Eugen-Oradea wrote:this wind gust is really a nonsense, I really would like to know how is it calculated
Ask La Crosse. Cumulus just displays the value that the station gives it.

I don't know why the LCMaxWind setting isn't working; I thought you had confirmed that it was? What value have you set?
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I have set the LCMaxWind... to 1, the lowest. Initially I have set it to 5, then I tried with 15 and when it was 15 happened this event, then I thought to change it to 1, the lowest, to see what is going to happen. The figures of the wind speed are shown on the Cumulus just like on the console, in the wind graph area the figures are sometimes bigger or smaller than what I see on console. I will watch it very carefully and I will tell you what's going on.
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15 m/s is 54 kph, so it should have caught that one. You do restart Cumulus when you change LCMaxWind, yes?
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Yes, I restarted the computer, like I usually do and I set it now to 6 m/s, meaning 22 km/h. Unfortunately the wind is almost non existent now and there was no error today.
Hmm... I have to be patient and to wait for some day when the wind is active.
Who knows what has happened ?! I guess I have too many expectations for a weather station that was less than 150 euros.
Can I upgrade my Cumulus 1.8.7 to 1.8.8 ?! What do I have to do ?! And I really don't wanna lose any data saved so far with good data or bad data. I read on the forum that in the newest version there are some improvements in the graph area.
Thanks and regards, Eugen-Oradea.
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Can I upgrade my Cumulus 1.8.7 to 1.8.8 ?!
The LCMaxWind setting only works in version 1.8.8 build 874 or later. That's probably why it's not working for you.
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Oh, good grief... I give up :(
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