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Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 12:02 am
by beteljuice
... be sure you go to the store and get updates from apps you have
Apps ?
I have some good (very) old programs .... are they still going to work ?
What about mail clients ?
Can you 'revert' to everything you had before if needs must ?
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 3:47 am
by N0BGS
@beteljuice:
Yes, you have one month to roll the computer back to the previous operating system. Don't delete the hidden windows.old folder!
--K
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 5:34 am
by nitrx
@Beteljuice you've XP so you cannot update for free to win 10 and I hate the term app too they are just programms so Cumulus is a app
I still use windows live mail not sure it was on XP and WSFTP 95 an ftp-programm uh app (used it on windows 95 and stil works)
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 7:01 am
by steve
Paul C wrote:Well I did try but its not there for me as yet
Guessing Windows 8 customers first perhaps
Have a look tomorrow - kind of sad now, think I am missing out on something
You may want to hold off if you want to use a USB Weatherlink - see this thread -
https://cumulus.hosiene.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14103
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 8:11 am
by RayProudfoot
I have absolutely no intention of switching any of my home computers from Win 7 to Win 10. It has nothing I need and you lose control over updates. Also, I'm a firm believer in the saying "there's no such thing as a free lunch".
Cumulus is still running on a 6 year-old Samsung netbook running XP and VirtualVP and is doing a wonderful job. That's its sole job so I have no concerns about internet security. That's handled by the router firewall.
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 11:35 am
by beteljuice
@Beteljuice you've XP ...
The beteljuices old tower is XP and slowly choking on updates eg. java which it can't use.
The Lady beteljuices old laptop is running Win 7 - if both machines grind to a halt It will be time to retire to a desert island beach bar methinks

Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 7:46 pm
by Paul C
Guess I wont be downloading it - it says you need a Windows product Key
My Pc came with it pre-installed - I have no cd and no sticker on the tower
Are these accessible by any other means ?
tks
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 8:10 pm
by RayProudfoot
Paul,
Who built the PC for you? If a company they will have used an OEM generic install so the product key shown in Computer - System Properties (down at the bottom) will include OEM in the key. That isn't your actual key. It should be on a sticker on the back of the case. If they didn't attach one they they're culpable but proving it may be difficult.
I was sorting out a friend's laptop and the product key label was on it's base. It had become unreadable because of being on people's laps but neither Acer or Microsoft could help. In the end I had to reinstall Windows from the hidden partition so didn't need it but that piece of paper is absolutely essential and whoever sold it to you should have provided it.
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 8:12 pm
by water01
They should have given you a product key somewhere are you sure it is not in your documentation that came with the computer?
If not as the key is encrypted in the registry here is a how to get at the key
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content ... indows.htm
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 8:20 pm
by RayProudfoot
David,
I tried Magic Jelly Bean with my mate's laptop but it wouldn't show the actual key. That link you provided states on one of them ...
It does have the restriction that it does not work for Microsoft volume licenses in Windows 7 and 8 or certain OEM keys.
It will work on a full Windows 7 licence but if the PC was bought from a supplier it will have an OEM licence. Reason? They're cheaper and quicker to install in bulk.
I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to write that key down and keep it somewhere safe. It's outrageous that it's only supplied on a tiny label with even smaller type. Microsoft can be very stupid at times.
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 8:20 pm
by Paul C
Panic over - found it inside the case. Took the back off and there it was - really should have looked harder
cheers
Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 8:23 pm
by RayProudfoot
Very good! Now write it down and keep it safe.

Re: Windows10
Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2015 11:04 pm
by Paul C
Back online with Windows 10
Everything appears to be working
Took about 3 hrs on downloading and installing
AND of Course Cumulus works

Re: Windows10
Posted: Fri 31 Jul 2015 8:48 am
by nitrx
Paul C wrote:Back online with Windows 10
Everything appears to be working
Took about 3 hrs on downloading and installing
AND of Course Cumulus works

Great have a look in Settings -> Updates find how updates are delivered, Microsoft has enabled by default to share updates over the internet (a sort of peer to peer distubution) I've set this to off you can set it to local only but I don't want to give my bandwith to the whole internet

Re: Windows10
Posted: Fri 31 Jul 2015 7:04 pm
by Paul C
nitrx wrote:Paul C wrote:Back online with Windows 10
Everything appears to be working
Took about 3 hrs on downloading and installing
AND of Course Cumulus works

Great have a look in Settings -> Updates find how updates are delivered, Microsoft has enabled by default to share updates over the internet (a sort of peer to peer distubution) I've set this to off you can set it to local only but I don't want to give my bandwith to the whole internet

That sounds a bit odd - will check on that. I would have thought by security software would have stopped anything like that ?
For anyone else reading - I didnt need my Windows Product ID/Key at all
PS - now checked what you suggest but cant find the section you mentioned, nothing obvious ?