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Running two Fine offset stations on the same PC

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jimbo_lad
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Running two Fine offset stations on the same PC

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I have rune a WH1081 Fine Offset station on my PC for over 5 years and used Cumulus for over 4 years including link to my website http://lindfield-weather.net/weatherstation/index.htm

All this has proved very reliable and I'm completely happy.

However I'm a keen gardener and have another Fine Offset station (WH1080) in my greenhouse to monitor temperature. I would like to connect this to Easy weather and Cumulus on the same PC. Is this possible? How will the software be able to distinguish the two very similar stations.

Advice would be welcome.

Cheers

Jim
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Re: Running two Fine offset stations on the same PC

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I'm not sure exactly what you want to do - run Easyweather with one station, and Cumulus with the other? Cumulus (and presumably also EW) has no way of distinguishing between the two stations. It asks Windows for a connection to a USB device with the appropriate manufacturer and device IDs (these are always the same for Fine Offset stations) and it uses the one its given. You might find that (if it works at all) the first software to start always gets the same station, but I don't know how Windows handles it.
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Re: Running two Fine offset stations on the same PC

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until a week ago I was running 2 stations first as a normal weather station the second was used to monitor the greenhouse and had the rg11 connected to it. they were connected to an old dell c400 with windows 7 32bit installed. if I need to restart the dell due to updates I had to disconnect the greenhouse station so when it restarted it did not pickup the wrong one. cumulus was installed in 2 separate locations on the hard drive and worked ok. the weather station is about 5 years old but the greenhouse station is only 3 years old so used the newer protocol and the base stations never picked up the wrong transmitter. so you might get away with it. due to the location of my greenhouse I had take it down as it was partially covering 2 windows and as we are having the property painted it had to go.

good luck giving it a try
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Re: Running two Fine offset stations on the same PC

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bruce45 wrote:if I need to restart the dell due to updates I had to disconnect the greenhouse station so when it restarted it did not pickup the wrong one.
So did you find that unless you did that, the first program to start didn't always pick up the same station?

Unplugging one station temporarily is a neat trick to make it work; it's good to know that it does actually work OK. I think that in theory it is possible to explicitly connect to one particular device even though they both have the same manufacturer and product identifiers, by using a serial number unique to each device, but it's not something I've looked into as very few people would want to do what you're doing.
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Re: Running two Fine offset stations on the same PC

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if I did not unplug the second station it was more miss than hit as in it would swop the stations round so I found it was easier to do it that way. worked ok for me but it was an old laptop I was using so not sure if it has anything to do with it.
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Re: Running two Fine offset stations on the same PC

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I've my WH1080 and my WH3080 (WS 5000 eco from Alecto) running at this moment on the same PC , the first one uses an install in the c:\cumulus directory and the second uses an install in c:\cumulus2 directory

Both stations are connected on a separate usb-port , guess what they are both logging in the seperate directories :) They seem not to interfere with eachother. I'm testing at the moment because I've to figure out the correct settings for UV and Watts for the 3080X , if it works all fine I make a separate php tag file and have 2 thermo/humidity sensors.

I've not send anything from the 3080X to the website and not decided to use one or both stations.

But a WH108X and a WH308X Fineoffset is possible on one PC running cumulus in seperate directories (at least for me).

I test a few days and let you know my investigations (hoping for more sun)

EDIT !! Well take care when unplugging a station or plugging the stations get confused , I think it's better not to run two fine-offsets on one PC fortunally I had a backup :!:
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