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Is Cumulus right for me?

Discussion and questions about Cumulus weather station software version 1. This section is the main place to get help with Cumulus 1 software developed by Steve Loft that ceased development in November 2014.
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Steyr
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Is Cumulus right for me?

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I'm planning to buy a Vantage Vue + WeatherlinkIP. I realise the Android app for Weatherlink is rubbish, and I have read the Cumulus app seems much better. Seems like a done deal.
BUT... I don't want to leave my PC at home on constantly, yet I want to be able to view my home weather details on my phone when I'm not at home.
Am I right in guessing that Cumulus is PC based software and therefore needs the PC to be on for it to constantly upload to a web server? If so, then it isn't what I need.
So, what are my options?
Can the Cumulus Android app get all its data from the Weatherlink site (as uploaded by WeatherlinkIP)?
I think I read WeatherlinkIP can upload to a few different sites - do any of these have an Android app that people can recommend?
Other ideas?

Thanks for any advice you guys can offer.
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Re: Is Cumulus right for me?

Post by steve »

Cumulus is Windows software, so needs a PC running Windows. To update a web site it actually needs to be running. The Android apps which have been written to work with Cumulus work with files created by Cumulus. They may have alternative methods of getting their data, but I don't think so, and you would need to ask the authors about that for a definitive answer.

Davis provide a free Android app which works with weatherlink.com, which is one of the places where Weatherlink IP uploads its data, so it seems to me that's where your solution lies, given your requirements. Or is that the app which you say is "rubbish"?
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Steyr
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Re: Is Cumulus right for me?

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steve wrote:Davis provide a free Android app which works with weatherlink.com, which is one of the places where Weatherlink IP uploads its data, so it seems to me that's where your solution lies, given your requirements. Or is that the app which you say is "rubbish"?
Yep. I've installed it and hooked up to publicly available stations. The app is pretty poor. Very limited weather reporting functionality, no historical data (current figures only), bad UI... just not a good product.

I have read that your own private archive data is available on the Weatherlink.com website. Does anyone know if the Weatherlink app can display any of that if you have your own station? Or if it's easily accessible if I chose to write my own app?
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Re: Is Cumulus right for me?

Post by prodata »

Steyr wrote:Yep. I've installed it and hooked up to publicly available stations. The app is pretty poor. Very limited weather reporting functionality, no historical data (current figures only), bad UI... just not a good product.

I have read that your own private archive data is available on the Weatherlink.com website. Does anyone know if the Weatherlink app can display any of that if you have your own station? Or if it's easily accessible if I chose to write my own app?
The reason that there's no historical data in the Android app is that the only data publicly available is single time-point data (pus a few summary items like monthly rainfall and some min/max data).

Archive data is available also, but the catch here is that you need to supply the password for the account as part of the authentication process. So if the app were purely for your own personal and occasional use and you are a competent programmer then there's no reason in principle why you can't write your own app to display eg trend graphs. But I'm sure that Davis would frown on anyone disclosing their password publicly or eg embedding it in an app and might well deactivate the account.
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