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N96GY tx freq?
Posted: Sun 29 Sep 2013 5:14 pm
by tbninja
Hi,
I have a N96GY and it's been working fine for the past 10 months. Last night however, the console stopped receiving the data from the transmitter.
The temperature/humidity sensor is still transmitting (I can hear it on my scanner radio and SDR), but I make it to be 433.887.5MHz, not 433.9 that the sticker on the back says. Anyone else able to verify this for me?
Thanks
Re: N96GY tx freq?
Posted: Mon 30 Sep 2013 5:20 pm
by logjam
I was under the impression it was 433.92MHz, which is used by many systems.
Re: N96GY tx freq?
Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2013 5:00 am
by N0BGS
Possibly you also can hear a signal on 433.90 MHz? If so, I suspect the transmitter is not using standard 5 KHz narrow band FM bandwidth. Could be using a 10-15 Khz wide or even wider channel. If it is, being off 12.5 KHz wouldn't be a problem. A wide band signal makes it harder to hear the telemetry if your scanner can only receive narrow band UHF communications. I'm just speculating here, of course.
Does your SDR have a scope function? If so, can you "see" the N96GY signal?
Also, 433 MHz is a fairly common frequency for remote control devices. Could some other device be interfering with or perhaps jamming the signal?
--Kurt
Re: N96GY tx freq?
Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2013 9:35 am
by AllyCat
Hi,
The (present) Maplin branded versions don't use narrow-band FM but simple OOK (On-Off-Keying) which will have a much wider bandwidth. See
this thread for example. The receiver probably just uses a Surface Wave Filter which may have a bandwidth in the tens if not hundreds of kHz, so local interference from another "433.92" ISM transmitter is a definite possibility.
Interestingly, the (868MHz) Clas Ohlson branded version, and also "early" Maplin stations, do appear to use a more sophisticated FM wireless channel.
Cheers, Alan.
Re: N96GY tx freq?
Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2013 8:28 pm
by tbninja
Thanks all for the replies and suggestions.
So, on the same day as the weather station stopped receiving the signal, my car refused to unlock via keyfob unless I was right up against the window *and* pointing in towards the rear view mirror. My wife's car was ok, perhaps it doesn't use 433MHz!
A couple of days later I was able to lock my car remotely from inside the house again, and when I checked the weather station console, it was receiving again!
Perhaps there was a strong local 433-ish signal (or a harmonic of 433-ish) was affecting all these devices, although none of the radios showed anything like that. Very odd!
Kurt: yes I can see the signal blip in the SDR waterfall.
As a side note, I was very surprised at the amount of devices I was able to listen to around 433.92 when I used my Yaesu and switched to Digi mode. Might be fun to try and decode them with the SDR and rtl_433.
Andy