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    BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by Buford T. Justice » Thu 01 Aug 2013 2:30 am

    I was getting tired of trying to build up the walls of my Fine Offset (FO) rain gauge to get it as accurate as my Stratus Rain Gauge so I decided to take drastic measures. I performed this mod a few days ago and it rained yesterday. The Stratus reported 1.34" and the FO reported 1.39" after the mod so I just re-did it so I could take pictures of the process.

    WARNING: This is not a pretty mod so if you have an eye for beauty, do something else. If you crave accuracy, then proceed.

    What you will need:
    • 0.5" PVC Pipe
    • Pipe Cutter
    • Hot Glue Gun
    • Duck Tape
    • Small Oil Funnel
    Many hardware stores sell pre-cut PVC pipe in about a 2' length. This is more than enough to do this mod. Use a pipe cutter to cut out a section of PVC pipe depending on the length of your oil funnel's spout length.

    First you will need to cut out a 2 cm longer length of PVC pipe than the length of the spout of your oil funnel. The spout on my oil funnel is 4 cm long so I cut a 6 cm length of PVC pipe:
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    Here are a few more pictures of the oil funnel I used. It is an old one I had laying around so I have no UPC to share. Notice the spout is straight and is 0.5" across to is slides into the PVC pipe perfectly and snugly:
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    Now for the pain in the butt part: hot gluing. First clean the rain sensor cover so it is nice and clean. You need to hold the PVC pipe straight and level along with the rain sensor cover making sure the center of the PVC pipe is centered over the rain sensor cover's hole. Only glue the PVC pipe where it touches the rain sensor cover with a small dab of hot glue. When done, quickly level the PVC pipe so it is straight and centered then blow on the glue. This will take a couple of minutes for the hot glue to dry so the PVC pipe stays in place. If you are off a little, you can bend the PVC pipe so that the glue stretches until it is level.

    Once you are absolutely sure the PVC pipe is level, straight, and centered (this is important), go ahead and glue a seal around the outside of the PVC pipe to keep water from seeping into it. This will not look too pretty. Also, MAKE SURE NO HOT GLUE SEEPS INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE PVC PIPE:
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    Did you notice that duck tape in the last picture? I forgot to take a picture of the PVC pipe centered over the rain sensor cover's hole prior. Anyway now is the fun part which adds even more to the ugliness: duck-taping!

    First you will want to take two pieces and go longways with the tape going up the PVC pipe slightly:
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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by Buford T. Justice » Thu 01 Aug 2013 2:50 am

    Now take smaller sections of duck tape and go crossways. Notice the duck tape near the spout is domed up so water will run off of it and overlaps:
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    Rip a small section of duck tape in half longways and tape around the PVC pipe:
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    Hot glue any seems that might leak:
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    OK. That is not too bad-looking. It doesn't have to be a work of art to function. Now place your cover back onto your rain sensor:
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    Slide the oil funnel into the top of the PVC pipe and level the funnel onto your hopefully already leveled rain sensor you should have leveled when you installed it:
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    Here is the finished product next to my Stratus rain gauge:
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    As I said in the first post, the Stratus measured 1.34" and the FO measured 1.39". I am going to wait until it rains a few more times to make sure it is still over the same amount. If it is, I might take out this oil funnel and cut it down a little bit until they both agree or try a smaller funnel. This is why I didn't hot glue the oil funnel to the top of the PVC pipe. It is snug and tight enough to not leak though a good gust of wind could take the oil funnel on a trip. I am not too worried about that happening. Replacement oil funnels are cheap.

    I think I will also take another piece of duck tape and go around the rain gauge cover to make it look prettier instead of having the ends of the duck tape on the side of the rain gauge cover showing.

    EDIT:

    I went ahead and taped around the rain gauge cover to make it look prettier:
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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by steve » Thu 01 Aug 2013 7:02 am

    Did you choose a funnel with a diameter that would in theory correct for the difference, or are you using a multiplier in Cumulus?
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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by Buford T. Justice » Thu 01 Aug 2013 7:38 am

    steve wrote:Did you choose a funnel with a diameter that would in theory correct for the difference, or are you using a multiplier in Cumulus?
    Neither. I am just winging it trying to get a match to the Stratus rain gauge. I am kind of OK with the 0.05" difference, but I want to have no more than a 0.01" difference. I have access to several small funnels so I hope to eventually get a match I can share with everyone here. I am pretty close now without modification to Cumulus.

    Prior to the mod and when I first got my Stratus rain gauge, I was having differences as low a 0.15" and as high as 0.60+". I think the funnel solution is definitely the way to go. It is just a question of finding the perfect size.

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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by iceberg » Thu 01 Aug 2013 11:03 am

    I used plastic from vertical blinds to build my wall around the inside perimeter of the rain gauge which is a fine offset. The plastic vertical blinds bend very easy. Then apply glue on the outside plastic of your vertical blind and voila you have a higher wall and could catch any rain that comes down like cats and dogs. Ohh one more thing, use a staple gun to attach your ends of your plastic blind then apply your glue along it to make sure no water gets in.

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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by Buford T. Justice » Thu 01 Aug 2013 10:01 pm

    I think sunlight would eventually make the vinyl go brittle wouldn't it?

    A bunch of rain is suppose to be coming my way starting tomorrow so I will get a few opportunities to see how the current funnel is doing:

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    I do have a question though. If the FO buckets are exactly .3 mm, shouldn't the inch equivalent per bucket tip be 0.01181102362206"?

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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by steve » Fri 02 Aug 2013 8:10 am

    Buford T. Justice wrote:I do have a question though. If the FO buckets are exactly .3 mm, shouldn't the inch equivalent per bucket tip be 0.01181102362206"?
    Yes. You've asked this question before.
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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by Buford T. Justice » Fri 02 Aug 2013 11:23 am

    steve wrote:
    Buford T. Justice wrote:I do have a question though. If the FO buckets are exactly .3 mm, shouldn't the inch equivalent per bucket tip be 0.01181102362206"?
    Yes. You've asked this question before.
    I forgot. Nobody is perfect, lol.

    http://sandaysoft.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 750#p83750

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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by Buford T. Justice » Sat 03 Aug 2013 1:01 am

    We didn't get nearly as much rain as was predicted. We had a light shower this evening lasting about 40-50 minutes. Stratus says a little above 0.10". FO says 0.09". Perhaps there is not quite enough rain in one of the FO buckets to tip it to 0.10", but it may be close to doing so.

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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by steve » Sat 03 Aug 2013 8:25 am

    Bear in mind (again) the rounding. 0.09 in will be 2.4 mm which is about 0.0945 in, so it's closer to your other gauge. And as you say, there may be a little left in the 'bucket'.
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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by Buford T. Justice » Wed 14 Aug 2013 10:34 pm

    It has been boring rain-wise here and no rain is expected anytime soon. The last time it rained a few days ago, both gauges reported 0.05". I am thinking the current funnel is pretty close to perfect. It is certainly better than the unmodified FO rain gauge.

    Regardless, tipping buckets cannot measure rain as accurately as a manual rain gauge. Tipping buckets are good for intensity though. This video was interesting in that regard:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVOxLrMaWA8

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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by Buford T. Justice » Sat 05 Oct 2013 6:11 pm

    This mod is still going strong. The only addition I had to do was find a way to keep debris and bugs from going down the funnel and getting trapped on top of the plastic screen of the rain gauge. I wanted something that would minimally impede rain intensity. I found tobacco pipe screen filters and used a pencil to shove one down the funnel of the spout. I have to take the spout off from time to time to blow debris off the top of the pipe screen, but so far so good:
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    Rain amounts usually agree with my Stratus rain gauge. I do have to make a correction in Cumulus every once in awhile. Sometimes the Stratus has more and sometimes it has less but the amount of variance is minimal. I would recommend everyone have a good rain gauge for actual measurements. It rained about an hour ago and both rain gauges say 0.06" :)
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    Re: BT's UGLY Fine Offset Rain Gauge Mod

    Post by jim-easterbrook » Thu 31 Oct 2013 3:07 pm

    Inspired by BT's elegant mod I've had a go myself:
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    This is a temporary installation, to run it in parallel with my other unmodified gauge for comparison. Next year I'll be relocating most of the station sensors away from the fence and making a more rigid mounting for the rain gauge.
    I also need to give some thought to keeping muck from going down the funnel.
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    Post by mcrossley » Thu 31 Oct 2013 9:32 pm

    One thing to watch Jim. Those transparent funnels soon go very brittle with the UV, mine got a 'micro crazed' look after about a year, any pressure and it fell apart.

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    Post by jim-easterbrook » Fri 01 Nov 2013 6:51 am

    mcrossley wrote:Those transparent funnels soon go very brittle with the UV.
    Good point - same problem as with transparent cable ties I assume.
    I'll look out for an opaque funnel for mark 2.
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