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Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Discussion and questions about Cumulus weather station software version 1. This section is the main place to get help with Cumulus 1 software developed by Steve Loft that ceased development in November 2014.
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Hum
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Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by Hum »

I've recently purchased an Ambient Weather station...running Windows 7 with the latest download of Cumulus as of 3 days ago.
Below my title on the page, the sun rises (always) at 11:07 each night and sets at 11:14 in the morning...the rest is obviously
in error too.
I've set my coordinates number of times (Spokane, Wa is 48N, 117W as far as I can determine), checked the computer clock (not to difficult) and reloaded the program completely 3 times. Also, have the station config on 'fine offset (WH1080).
What am I missing? I do not feel comfortable running the program with this blatant error continually. I suppose it's something
simple yet I'm overlooking it.
How do I right this to move on to deeper use of the program.
Hugh
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by steve »

In almost every case I've ever seen where the sunrise and sunset times are wrong, it's because incorrect co-ordinates have been entered. And the other cases were where the PC was set to the wrong timezone.

Perhaps it isn't saving the settings you're entering - some of the edit controls seem to cause problems on some systems. Could you attach a screen shot of your station settings screen, please, and copy and paste the latitude and longitude values from your cumulus.ini?
Steve
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by chuck29 »

I am a newbie but wonder, if lat/lon is typically the cause for your problem does the longitude need the - sign in front of it or does entering it as W take care of that. I'll need to know when I install Cumulus so I may as well throw in that thought.
Hum
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by Hum »

Here's the Cumulus settings:
[Station]
Type=5
Model=
Port=0
Latitude=0.0688888888888889
Longitude=-1.01861111111111
LatTxt=N 00° 04' 08"
LonTxt=W 01° 01' 07"
Altitude=2200
AltitudeInFeet=1

The Station Settings .png is:
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by beteljuice »

Err .....

You've input 0 degrees, 4 minutes, 8 seconds N

NOT 48 degrees N
Last edited by beteljuice on Sun 28 Jul 2013 4:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Hum
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by Hum »

Thank you very much...I've converted my decimals to min/sec and placed them in the correct boxes too!
I'm back to exactly what should be showing...whew! Gotta read the boxes...H
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

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chuck29 wrote:I am a newbie but wonder, if lat/lon is typically the cause for your problem does the longitude need the - sign in front of it or does entering it as W take care of that. I'll need to know when I install Cumulus so I may as well throw in that thought.
You don't use negative values at all when using the deg/min/sec format, you enter your 'hemisphere', N or S for latitude, E or W for longitude. This format is unambiguous, unlike the decimal format where sometimes negative longitude means west of the prime meridian, and sometimes east, which is why the Cumulus screen uses d/m/s.
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by travs84 »

I have a similar issue. I have stuck in my co-ordinates but as the UK has now moved +1 hour from GMT for daylight savings. My sun rise/set info is out by 1 hour. Cumulus doesnt appear to have a "Daylight Savings" feature to correct this .. any advice ? :)
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by steve »

It uses the timezone/DST settings from Windows, so if you do have your co-ordinates entered correctly, it is likely that you don't have the correct settings in Windows.
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Re: Time settings for sunrise/sunset

Post by travs84 »

ok thanks - yip windows settings weren't 100%.. all sortd now
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