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The inside of the ws-1081

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Re: The inside of the ws-1081

Post by hans »

the humidity sensor is the round thing below it,
could be that the temp is also there,what make me doubt about that is,as on the pcb of the outdoor unit,the temp sensor is just a seperate thingy..it's not on that module.

another thing:
if somebody also decides to remove the touchscreen,be aware that you must fill the space of it round the edges of the frame,otherwise
the rubber contact strip of the lcd won't make proper connections.the lcd sinks to deep in it.
i just glued some wooden sticks (you know,for pickles,cheese etc) on the plastic frame where normally the plates would rest on.
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Post by wheels »

To remove the touch screen is the ribbon soldered in or is it just plugged in?
I have just had some problem with my unit suspect due to touch screen. It would beep and light up on its own intermittently. Unable to use touch screen seemed like was permanently pushed. Gave crape data on graphs. Came right on its own. So like to remove it so it wont happen again.
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Post by hans »

it's just plugged in the connector on the pcb.
you can wiggle it loose gently.
maybe reconnecting it solves your problem.
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Re: The inside of the ws-1081

Post by simsons »

Hello,
can you show on picture where is antenna ? My station loosing signal sometimes..
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Re: The inside of the ws-1081

Post by harrym1byt »

simsons wrote:Hello,
can you show on picture where is antenna ? My station loosing signal sometimes..
If you mean the receiver antenna, as in inside the LCD display, then it is the red vertical wire which bends to the right in the first of Hans photos- you can also see the same red wire in several other photos. I don't think there is not much you can do to improve it, other than moving the unit to a better location for reception.
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Re: The inside of the ws-1081

Post by hans »

maybe the wire is loose,i found it not very well soldered,you could also try to extend that wire.
furthermore i've read somewhere about refitting the dcf-antenna of the outside unit.not sure if it is also used for the data transmission,but worth a try.
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Again, if you are referring to lost data transmission and not time sync a significant improvement can be made (unlless the problem is due to interference) by increasing the recieving aerial (red wire) to half wave.. exactly double the existing length
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Post by beteljuice »

Double the length of the wire ;)

Although the transmitter / sensor is very directional, if you are able to rotate that through its vertical axis you could get a substantial improvement.

Second thought - you might then lose your radio time signal.

What a design :lol:
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Re: The inside of the ws-1081

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I mean loose signal from outdoor transmitter. Sometimes i see 48sec interval, but if is windy day i get 3-5min interval.
My transmitter is 4m upper my reciver :)
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Re: The inside of the ws-1081

Post by hans »

i can only help you with a picture of the outdoor unit.
you can see what the transmitter antenna is.
maybe somebody with more knowledge of transmitters knows how to improve the transmission.
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i found it here,
http://www.timetec.freeserve.co.uk/DCF/dcf.htm

very use full.
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Re: The inside of the ws-1081

Post by Alcedema »

Any idea if there's a hardware-way of making it so the LEDs stay on permanently? I've just taken the touchscreen sensor out and the display is much better!
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Post by hans »

if you take a look at this picture
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r6,r7,r8,r9 are the resistors for the leds.
looks like Q1 acts like a switch for the leds,so bypass Q1 might do the trick.
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Post by harrym1byt »

By passing Q1 might well put the LED's on, but that would then mean the batteries would go quickly flat when not on USB power. More sensible would be a modification so that when the USB supply is available (USB relay activated), the LED's remain on.
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you are right about that
but maybe Alcedema wants them on without usb.
so to have it either way,bypass Q1 with a on/off switch.
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Re: The inside of the ws-1081

Post by harrym1byt »

simsons wrote:I mean loose signal from outdoor transmitter. Sometimes i see 48sec interval, but if is windy day i get 3-5min interval.
My transmitter is 4m upper my reciver :)
I don't know which country you might be in, but these transmitters come under the license free regulations where the design has to be approved. Modifying the transmitter or its antenna are against the telecommunications regulations. I believe your only legitimate way to improve the situation is to improve the receiver antenna or relocate the transmitter.

You might try replacing the red antenna wire in the pictures of the receiver/display unit with a single straight length of 166mm, that length being a half wave of 868Mhz. Simply soldering an extra piece onto the existing red wire to make the total length 166mm would be just as good. Allowance may need to be made for some of the wire length being on the PCB - deduct the track length from the 166mm.
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