Welcome to the Cumulus Support forum.

Latest Cumulus MX release 3.19.3 (build 3196) - 25 July 2022

Legacy Cumulus 1 release v1.9.4 (build 1099) - 28 November 2014 (a patch is available for 1.9.4 build 1099 that extends the date range of drop-down menus to 2030)

Download the Software (Cumulus MX / Cumulus 1 and other related items) from the Wiki

If you are interested in supporting Cumulus then maybe you would like to contribute to the maintenance of the Wiki? This need not take hours of your time - just a half hour here and there can make a big difference, particularly if many people are doing this. Any contributions are very welcome, whether they involve new content or editing of existing content. It will be very helpful to current and future users of Cumulus software if the Wiki is kept well-maintained and current. If you are interested then please contact forum user saratogaWX and ask for a Wiki account.

Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Other discussion about creating web sites for Cumulus that doesn't have a specific subforum

Moderator: daj

Post Reply
RayProudfoot
Posts: 3110
Joined: Wed 06 May 2009 6:29 pm
Weather Station: Davis VP2 with Daytime FARS
Operating System: Windows XP SP3
Location: Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England
Contact:

Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by RayProudfoot »

Yesterday I tried accessing a user’s website from the link in his signature but was just presented with lots of empty boxes where there should have been basic data about temp, rainfall, pressure etc.

The reason suggested was that my iOS was too old to run the Javascript. But we’re talking basic info here. Presumably nothing fancy like charts. Are things becoming over complicated when you have to have a fairly new iPad in order to see basic info like this?

My own website might not be very fancy compared to some but it still shows data correctly even on a 8 year-old iPad.
Cheers,
Ray, Cheshire.

Image
User avatar
HansR
Posts: 3587
Joined: Sat 20 Oct 2012 6:53 am
Weather Station: GW1100 (WS80/WH40)
Operating System: Raspberry OS/Bullseye
Location: Wagenborgen (NL)
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by HansR »

Well Ray, as I made the tool with which that website was created I can only say that I did not test it against all devices alive in this world. I can say that you are the first to complain. So many older devices (my phone and Pad are Samsung but definitely not the youngest) do accept this website (Not only Andy's but all similar generated).

Btw most banking sites or other more complex javascript driven sites should then not be working either (if it is the javascript). What is the status of that type of sites on your iPad? Tbh, I can't debug on an iPad and can't check this either. I have no iPad available in my immediate surroundings. You could try and ask others with an iPad to try and run the site. If it does not work anywhere on an apple we would have to try to find a solution with some apple knowledgeable people.
Hans

https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl
https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl/CMX4
CMX build 3183 ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 3B+ ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● Mono 6.8.0.105
CMX build 40xx ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 4B ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● .NET 6.0.6
User avatar
HansR
Posts: 3587
Joined: Sat 20 Oct 2012 6:53 am
Weather Station: GW1100 (WS80/WH40)
Operating System: Raspberry OS/Bullseye
Location: Wagenborgen (NL)
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by HansR »

And beside that: the technique of displaying the live data (from realtime.txt) is similar to that of the Saratoga sites and of the old Cumulus sites. Nevertheless it could be that the startup code - which is a bit more modern - blocks the continuation to regular run.

But please remember, that the Standard interface (the black one) and the alternative interface also are javascript driven. Do those work?
Hans

https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl
https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl/CMX4
CMX build 3183 ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 3B+ ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● Mono 6.8.0.105
CMX build 40xx ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 4B ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● .NET 6.0.6
Mapantz
Posts: 1323
Joined: Sat 17 Dec 2011 11:55 am
Weather Station: Davis Vantage Pro2
Operating System: Windows 11 x64
Location: Dorset - UK
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by Mapantz »

It does sound like JavaScript isn't enabled on the safari browser?!

That's the first to check in your settings. Also, are you using private browsing?
Image
User avatar
ConligWX
Posts: 1337
Joined: Mon 19 May 2014 10:45 pm
Weather Station: Davis vPro2+ w/DFARS
Operating System: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
Location: Bangor, NI
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by ConligWX »

note:

some websites also block on web browser "user-agent" strings, especially when they are archaic.

I know my iPad (1st gen original) is useless for web browsing the net. gave up on it years ago.
Regards Simon

https://www.conligwx.org - @conligwx
Davis Vantage Pro2 Plus with Daytime FARS • WeatherLink Live • Davis AirLink • PurpleAir PA-II-SD • CumulusMX •
User avatar
HansR
Posts: 3587
Joined: Sat 20 Oct 2012 6:53 am
Weather Station: GW1100 (WS80/WH40)
Operating System: Raspberry OS/Bullseye
Location: Wagenborgen (NL)
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by HansR »

@Mapantz, @ConligWX: thanks for joining in and the good suggestions.
One thing is sure: the website CUtils generated website does not block on anything (unless bootstrap blocks unknowingly), if a browser is archaic it just shows nothing I guess ;) I find checking browsers to determine it won't work superfluous :lol:
Hans

https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl
https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl/CMX4
CMX build 3183 ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 3B+ ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● Mono 6.8.0.105
CMX build 40xx ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 4B ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● .NET 6.0.6
RayProudfoot
Posts: 3110
Joined: Wed 06 May 2009 6:29 pm
Weather Station: Davis VP2 with Daytime FARS
Operating System: Windows XP SP3
Location: Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by RayProudfoot »

Hans, thanks for your reply. I have checked on my Windows 10 laptop and both your sites are fine. Using the iPad the titles of each box show but nothing inside them. Oddly, the graphs at the bottom show just fine.

I have checked and I do have Javascript enabled on my iPad.

I don't acccess bank sites on my iPad. I only access them via my Windows 10 laptop. My iPad is not used on any high security sites.

It's not really a complaint as such. Just a question as to why such basic info isn't visible but the answer appears to be the limitations of the iOS and what it can (and can't) support.

@Mapantz, what is "private browsing"?
Cheers,
Ray, Cheshire.

Image
User avatar
HansR
Posts: 3587
Joined: Sat 20 Oct 2012 6:53 am
Weather Station: GW1100 (WS80/WH40)
Operating System: Raspberry OS/Bullseye
Location: Wagenborgen (NL)
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by HansR »

RayProudfoot wrote: Fri 05 Aug 2022 11:14 am Hans, thanks for your reply. I have checked on my Windows 10 laptop and both your sites are fine. Using the iPad the titles of each box show but nothing inside them. Oddly, the graphs at the bottom show just fine.

I have checked and I do have Javascript enabled on my iPad.

I don't acccess bank sites on my iPad. I only access them via my Windows 10 laptop. My iPad is not used on any high security sites.

It's not really a complaint as such. Just a question as to why such basic info isn't visible but the answer appears to be the limitations of the iOS and what it can (and can't) support.
OK. Don't forget to check iPad with others. That might give valuable info.
Are there any updates waiting for your iPad (notably the browser and the javascript)?
Hans

https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl
https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl/CMX4
CMX build 3183 ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 3B+ ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● Mono 6.8.0.105
CMX build 40xx ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 4B ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● .NET 6.0.6
RayProudfoot
Posts: 3110
Joined: Wed 06 May 2009 6:29 pm
Weather Station: Davis VP2 with Daytime FARS
Operating System: Windows XP SP3
Location: Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by RayProudfoot »

HansR wrote: Fri 05 Aug 2022 11:31 am
OK. Don't forget to check iPad with others. That might give valuable info.
Are there any updates waiting for your iPad (notably the browser and the javascript)?
Sadly there are no updates now for my iPad Air bought in April 2014. I use it to read my newspaper and it’s performed admirably. I’ll probably buy a new one and sell this privately for a bargain price.
Cheers,
Ray, Cheshire.

Image
User avatar
HansR
Posts: 3587
Joined: Sat 20 Oct 2012 6:53 am
Weather Station: GW1100 (WS80/WH40)
Operating System: Raspberry OS/Bullseye
Location: Wagenborgen (NL)
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by HansR »

OK. But do check a new one can read these websites ;)
Hans

https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl
https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl/CMX4
CMX build 3183 ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 3B+ ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● Mono 6.8.0.105
CMX build 40xx ● Ecowitt GW1100/WS80/WH40 ● RPi 4B ● Raspberry OS 5.15.32 ● .NET 6.0.6
RayProudfoot
Posts: 3110
Joined: Wed 06 May 2009 6:29 pm
Weather Station: Davis VP2 with Daytime FARS
Operating System: Windows XP SP3
Location: Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England
Contact:

Re: Website data not visible because iOS is too old

Post by RayProudfoot »

HansR wrote: Fri 05 Aug 2022 11:59 am OK. But do check a new one can read these websites ;)
With the latest iOS it should. If it can’t then I would look at the website, not the iPad. My iOS is v12, the latest is 15. So, big changes.
Cheers,
Ray, Cheshire.

Image
Post Reply