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Re: HTML Help?

Post by beteljuice »

My mistake .. I meant the second page http://weather.inverellit.com/gauges-ss.htm

On that page you closed the id=content div early after the first nav bar section,

but you need the closing </div> you described as gap fix in the first page - it is really the closing div for the class=content div which contains the gauges 'units' block.


.... after all that - you will still have your layout being affected by browser width due to the old default css of all the Cumulus pages ' :o

Hint:

Try weatherstyles.css

change:

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#content {
	margin-top: 5%;
	margin-right: 20%;
	margin-bottom: 5%;
	margin-left: 20%;
}
to:

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#content {
	margin: auto;
	width: 720px; /* whatever working width you like */
}
and see what happens ....
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Re: HTML Help?

Post by Phil23 »

beteljuice wrote: Fri 09 Aug 2019 1:11 am Hint:

Try weatherstyles.css

change to:

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#content {
	margin: auto;
	width: 720px; /* whatever working width you like */
}
and see what happens ....
That seems to have improved things.

Doesn't look like it's upset any other pages, but I notice the menu doesn't wrap anymore, nor the gauges.
Presume that's because width is fixed.

I probably still have a few errors on the page I need to comb thru yet.
Also noticed it fixed the location bar, where the grey background was shrinking smaller that the text on resizing.

Not sure what's been doing my head in more....

Getting my head around this or the Tagged vLan implemention I'm doing with 8 switches, 3 long range wireless bridges & the poorly documented birds nests from the patch panels.

Thanks Much for the help.
Appreciated.
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Re: HTML Help?

Post by Phil23 »

Would like to tidy up the graph buttons a bit.

I can split them into two rows with a couple of <tr></tr>
but they all align from the left.

http://weather.inverellit.com/graphs2.htm

Would prefer them to be centred above the graph & with their height reduced a bit.

Thought I might find the height in the <style> section but can't seem to see anything related there.
(Not that I know what exactly to look for).

Anyone got any hints on these two changes?

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Re: HTML Help?

Post by beteljuice »

Oh Phil ....

I'm going to have to take you to the vets !! :groan:

You can't just put <tr> where you like without considering the <td>

You have 1st <tr> </tr> containing 6 <td> </td>

The 2nd <tr> </tr> contains 4 <td> </td>

Unless you know what you're doing, they should be the same.

In order to 'centralise' the 2nd row you need to put an 'empty' <td> at the start and at the end.

<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
.... real td's
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
their height reduced a bit.
in the css associated with the guages

.button

look for height and line-height - try 30px instead of 40px

To reduce the distance between the graph and the buttons

#chartcontainer

look for margin-top

Now go and have a lie down for a month or two ...
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Re: HTML Help?

Post by Phil23 »

beteljuice wrote: Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:37 am Oh Phil ....

I'm going to have to take you to the vets !! :groan:
NO!
Went to the Vet's on Monday & they took $1377.45 off me for some feline care....
You can't just put <tr> where you like without considering the <td>
Yeahbut,
You've gotta break stuff to see if you can work out how it works...
Unless you know what you're doing.....
It's a mix of having a vague idea & being vicious with cut & paste. :twisted:
Now go and have a lie down for a month or two ...
Now how can you suggest that when it's Sunday morning & a balmy 9°C down here in (well was @ your post) Aus, & gusting @ 37 km/h.
Perfect weather for being outside & watch all the stuff blow away.


Cheers.

PS.

Happy with how it looks now.

http://weather.inverellit.com/graphs.htm

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Re: HTML Help?

Post by Phil23 »

So Still in training wheels here....

Can I simply do this; rename index.htm to index.php etc.

Why I am asking is I'd rather not have to Fixm my menu's constantly in 11 different files.

I did it with the gauges page & it seems to work, but don't know the rules & implications.

http://weather.inverellit.com/gauges.php

It has the to Nave menu removed & replaced with

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<?php include("topmenu.htm"); ?>
Is this all correct or am I breaking all the rules?

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Re: HTML Help?

Post by beteljuice »

That's fine ...

Servers are quite happy with .htm or .php (if both have the same name php usually wins ;) )

As your menu is an 'include', it is more usual to have it as a .txt file, unless of course it also needs php parsing, in which case .php

Don't forget, If you are doing out-of-the-box cumulus pages, you will need to NOT include standard files and create new 'content' files to upload separately after any Cu processing.
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Re: HTML Help?

Post by Phil23 »

beteljuice wrote: Sat 21 Sep 2019 12:40 am As your menu is an 'include', it is more usual to have it as a .txt file, unless of course it also needs php parsing, in which case .php
Did think it could probably be topmenu.txt
Don't forget, If you are doing out-of-the-box cumulus pages, you will need to NOT include standard files and create new 'content' files to upload separately after any Cu processing.
Didn't think of that.

I wonder if I could just let them upload as the normal .htm's and then run an external command script a bit like this with a dos FTP input file...

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delete index.php
rename index.htm index.php
delete today.php 
rename today.htm today.php
etc
etc
quit
That's assuming the external program is run after Cumulus does it's upload of the htm's.
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Re: HTML Help?

Post by beteljuice »

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delete index.php
rename index.htm index.php
... What's the point of that ?
The uploaded default .html will NOT have any php code in it !

Edit: I don't know if in mx you can tell Cu to change the rename extension of default upload files ?
probably not ....
You need to create NEW templates with the php 'include' stuff and NOT the native whatever-content.
Then tell CU to upload and process those realtime and rename to .php or .txt if it's an include html

It's not as difficult as it sounds.
In fact (Saratoga style) your permanent content (Header, navigation, footer) which generally only needs a date stamp can sit quietly on the web, and you only upload Cu <webtag> dynamic content as a .txt file to include in your on-line page. (Unless as mentioned earlier it also needs php processing, in which case .php extension.)

Start off by creating a 'blank' template, work out what you always want ...
Location header, css, nav, footer, page width / layout. - any date / times can handled by PHP ;)

You are already part way there with FWI.
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Re: HTML Help?

Post by Mapantz »

I disabled 'upload standard files' and just use the 'extra web files'
My indexT.htm get's processed to index.htm and is then uploaded as index.php.
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