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The meteorological day used at this station is....

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osbourne one-nil
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The meteorological day used at this station is....

Post by osbourne one-nil »

Hello,

I've got a VP2 which uploads to my cutting-edge website www.greatasby.co.uk. Despite its award-winning interface and graphic intensive layout, I'm very tempted to swap over to the Sandaysoft version.

What annoys me most about my site, and the VP2 datalogging in general, is that the day runs from midnight to 11.59pm, meaning that is it's -9º at 11.59pm, I record two extremely cold nights, not just one. When I was manually collecting data, this wasn't a problem.

I notice many people have their days running from, say, 9am, yet the website still displays the correct time. Am I right in thinking that the software takes care of this, because at the moment, the only way I can think of making my VP2 run from 9am to 9am is to put its clock forward 9 hours, but then my website would display the wrong time and my detailed records would too.

Am I making any sense?

Has this been asked lots of times before and I've not seen it?

Thanks.
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Post by steve »

Hi.

Yes, it's one of the Cumulus 'unique selling points' :). It's one of the reasons I wrote Cumulus in the first place, because there's very little software available that allows the standard UK meteorological day of 09-09, and of course as you realise, the stations themselves don't support it.

It makes the code much more complicated than it would otherwise need to be, so the more people that use it (the 09-09 day), the happier I am.

It automatically switches over correctly to 10-10 BST in summer, but there's a caveat with this. It logs using local time, so when the clocks go forward you get a gap of an hour in the data (not such a big problem), and when they go back you get an hour's data with repeated timestamps (not so nice). Of course, this problem exists whether you're using 0900 or midnight. This is one of things I hope to fix in the legendary Cumulus 2.

If you have any more questions, fire away.

Steve
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Post by osbourne one-nil »

Thanks Steve!

I guess I can run it alongside my current site for a while and see how it goes. It certainly looks very impressive and I'd love to give it a go!
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We use 20UTC - 20UTC :( I hope to see some rollover options in Cumulus2 :?
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Nice use of my old WeatherLink template osborne one-nil!
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Post by steve »

TgT wrote:We use 20UTC - 20UTC :( I hope to see some rollover options in Cumulus2 :?
It probably wouldn't be too hard to put that into this version, actually, as it just adds or subtracts 9 hours in various places when working out what day it is. But the complication would be that currently it assumes that the period up to the rollover is part of yesterday, whereas in your case, I guess it's part of today, and the period after 20UTC is part of tomorrow?

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Post by TgT »

steve wrote:But the complication would be that currently it assumes that the period up to the rollover is part of yesterday, whereas in your case, I guess it's part of today, and the period after 20UTC is part of tomorrow?

Steve

That`s right.
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Post by osbourne one-nil »

garytx wrote:Nice use of my old WeatherLink template osborne one-nil!
Ah ha! I wondered where you'd gone!

It's served me well for years, but I quite like the idea of the 9am-9am facility. I'm stuck though...my VP2 is connected via USB. I've been reading something about come conversion thingy, but I'm stuck!
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osbourne one-nil wrote:It's served me well for years, but I quite like the idea of the 9am-9am facility. I'm stuck though...my VP2 is connected via USB. I've been reading something about come conversion thingy, but I'm stuck!
You need the CP210X USB to Serial converter:

http://www.davisnet.com/support/weather ... driver.asp

This provides an emulated serial port that Cumulus can use.

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Post by osbourne one-nil »

Lovely. Thanks Steve. I've got to stay up late tonight because I put some bread on, so I'm going to have a play!
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Post by osbourne one-nil »

I can't get that application to run. I'm getting a message about the application configuration being incorrect. I've googled it, but to no avail.

Scratch that - I'd saved it to the wrong location it seems.
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Post by osbourne one-nil »

Morning,

I know this isn't directly related to this software, but at the moment, my weather-link uploads to my website, and people simply have to put in www.greatasby.co.uk to find the information. How would I organise my folders to make this software do the same? Do I just upload everything straight into the root directory without making a folder first, like directed?

I have tried creating a folder called "weather" in the root directory, so the address would be (to my thinking) www.greatasby.co.uk/weather...but it won't let me.

Also, is there anyway to have weatherlink running alongside the Cumuls, so people can choose which they prefer? I'd probably want to call that something like www.greatasby.co.uk/original.

Thanks!
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Post by osbourne one-nil »

Ignore that too - I've posted a question in the right place!
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Post by beteljuice »

What it "won't let you" ?

If you can't create a 'weather' directory in your webspace, you wouldn't be able to create an 'original' directory either !

If you have both uploading to 'root', then the last 'index' file wins, so you have no way to the other.
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Post by osbourne one-nil »

You have to bear with me because I really don't get websites or html at all, so what I say will sound ridiculous to anyone with even the vaguest understanding of these things.

I couldn't create a folder called "weather" in what I thought was the root directory of my webspace. I didn't realise that I had to do this in the folder httpdocs.
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