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Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by fractonimbus » Sun 09 Dec 2018 9:52 pm

I've had a Fine Offset weather station running on Cumulus since 2011, with remarkably few problems. The FO device is starting to collapse through old age, so I am planning an upgrade to a Davis Vantage Vue. I have a fairly heavily customised version of Cumulus (many extra gadget data streams uploaded), so I want to keep using Cumulus. My question: is setting up Cumulus for the Davis unit straight forward?
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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by dazza1223 » Sun 09 Dec 2018 10:25 pm

yh it is mate but make sure you get the data logger with it as you will need that to talk to Cumulus
Have fun and keep learning

dazza :D

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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by fractonimbus » Sun 09 Dec 2018 11:13 pm

Thanks. I was planning to get the USB software dongle device so that I can plug it into my Cumulus PC.
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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by dazza1223 » Sun 09 Dec 2018 11:37 pm

well then your all set to go .. :D
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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by ExperiMentor » Mon 10 Dec 2018 9:44 pm

Can you guys tell me why the Davis Vantage Vue is worth so much cash?

I too have a Fine Offset and it's been great for years, and the Davis Vantage Vue looks like a toy by comparison. Why does it cost like 10x as much and is it worth it?

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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by dazza1223 » Mon 10 Dec 2018 9:56 pm

i have a Fine Offset st and i dint like it and as it kept locking up all the time.. and the davis st are the best as thay are so reliable and ive had mine for 4 years now and never had any think go rong with it do u mind me asking why u want to upgrade? and how much are thay going for? and i got mine for £399 with usb data
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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by fractonimbus » Mon 10 Dec 2018 10:02 pm

I'm upgrading because the old (2011) Fine Offset is no longer recording rain. Spiders next in the rain gauge but even when I clean them out, the wig-wag rain sensor is no longer counting rainfall.
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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by dazza1223 » Mon 10 Dec 2018 10:08 pm

so ok good pont how much have you seen them for?
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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by PaulMy » Mon 10 Dec 2018 10:17 pm

Davis products are more expensive compared to the AcuRite, FineOffset/Ambient brands because of their quality, and maybe more costly to produce for its engineering, after sales support, non-obsolescence, and optional extras for specific users https://www.davisinstruments.com/usecase/agriculture/

I don't believe however that the Vue costs 10 times as much is any-where's near correct. The Davis Vue is far from a toy, and more would say the other way around. Granted the Davis line does not have the touch screen and colour display that many of the others are sold on!

The Davis is often selected if it is important for the user such as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBONmp1Z0eQ
https://www.davisinstruments.com/dont-m ... n-chicago/


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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by fractonimbus » Mon 10 Dec 2018 10:40 pm

>> so ok good point how much have you seen them for?

The Davis Vantage Vues sell for around AU $650 here, plus another 200 for the USB or Ethernet connections.

The Fine Offset was about AU $120, 7 years ago. It lasted pretty well, but the rain gauge has been playing up (even without the spiders) for a year or so.
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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by PaulMy » Mon 10 Dec 2018 11:17 pm

The Vue can be had for $247US and datalogger at $117. We pay about 25-30% more in our C$ plus shipping.
The Davis VP2 is $428 plus datalogger.
However these models may not be available for AU.

I presume the $120 of a few years ago would be a little different now.

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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by BCJKiwi » Tue 11 Dec 2018 7:33 pm

Check out the AUS radio communications regulations.
Most of these frequencies have been rationalised around the world.
Here in NZ we were unable to use the US Davis kit without infringing the frequency range but that all changed a few years ago with the rationalisation and we can now legally use the US kit. It may be the same for you.

If not there is always the cabled option (VP2 Only) if that will work for you. You can daisy chain multiple envoys/consoles off the console cabled to the ISS if required.

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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by ExperiMentor » Tue 11 Dec 2018 9:44 pm

PaulMy wrote:
Mon 10 Dec 2018 10:17 pm
I don't believe however that the Vue costs 10 times as much is any-where's near correct.
On Amazon.co.uk, best price for a Davis Vantage Vue is £373.69 plus £176.88 for the USB data logger = £550.57.
The Fine Offset from Maplin was £50 or often even £40 when on offer.
That's more than 10x as much by my arithmetic.

All spares are available for Fine Offset too - eg the rain sensor is under £5 if cleaning it out doesn't work.

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Re: Old Cumulus user, new Davis user

Post by mcrossley » Tue 11 Dec 2018 10:19 pm

The third party data loggers are *much* cheaper!

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