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Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
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Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
It's been pretty windy here for the last 48 hours but looking at my Cumulus1 graph you can see two point where it dropped to zero. Except it couldn't of course.
WU readings show no wind was recorded between 0500 - 0525 this morning.
This is the new design Davis anemometer and only 2 years old. Should I be concerned?
WU readings show no wind was recorded between 0500 - 0525 this morning.
This is the new design Davis anemometer and only 2 years old. Should I be concerned?
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
I would be concerned. It looks like you have an intermittent connection somewhere - maybe the plug or socket needs cleaning? Water in the transmitter, perhaps?
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
Thanks Steve. The transmitter is reasonably easy to access so I'll check it out once the winds die down.
I just hope it's not at the anemometer end as that's beyond my ability to get up there and I'd need to rely on a mate.
I just hope it's not at the anemometer end as that's beyond my ability to get up there and I'd need to rely on a mate.
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
Woke up this morning to find winds readings stopped around 5:45am. It was raining and windy so I decided to wait until it stopped to check things out.
The rain stopped around 11:00 and I was going to look at it after lunch but around 12:00 it started to transmit again. The transmitter is at the front of the house and separate from the ISS in the back garden. I opened it up but there were no obvious signs of water ingress. There was some dirt on the bottom of the enclosure but it has been up there for nearly 7 years.
I unplugged the wind connection and used the tip of a hankie to clean the socket. Rotated the battery to give it a clean contact just in case it was a bit dirty.
All I can do is leave it and hope it's nothing more than a dirty connection. Should it happen again is there a way of using a voltmeter to test if there is a signal coming from the anemometer? That would help track down exactly where the problem lies.
Oh, one another thing. Is there an alarm I can set in Cumulus or WeatherLink to warn when the wind suddenly stops?
The rain stopped around 11:00 and I was going to look at it after lunch but around 12:00 it started to transmit again. The transmitter is at the front of the house and separate from the ISS in the back garden. I opened it up but there were no obvious signs of water ingress. There was some dirt on the bottom of the enclosure but it has been up there for nearly 7 years.
I unplugged the wind connection and used the tip of a hankie to clean the socket. Rotated the battery to give it a clean contact just in case it was a bit dirty.
All I can do is leave it and hope it's nothing more than a dirty connection. Should it happen again is there a way of using a voltmeter to test if there is a signal coming from the anemometer? That would help track down exactly where the problem lies.
Oh, one another thing. Is there an alarm I can set in Cumulus or WeatherLink to warn when the wind suddenly stops?
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
I think it works by opening and closing a switch, so you may be able to detect that with a meter. I may have that wrong...RayProudfoot wrote:All I can do is leave it and hope it's nothing more than a dirty connection. Should it happen again is there a way of using a voltmeter to test if there is a signal coming from the anemometer? That would help track down exactly where the problem lies.
Not in Cumulus, only alarms for high wind speeds.Oh, one another thing. Is there an alarm I can set in Cumulus or WeatherLink to warn when the wind suddenly stops?
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
IIRC Ray has the newer model with the Hall effect 'switch', so I don't think it's as simple as looking for a reed switch contact closure.steve wrote:I think it works by opening and closing a switch, so you may be able to detect that with a meter. I may have that wrong...RayProudfoot wrote:All I can do is leave it and hope it's nothing more than a dirty connection. Should it happen again is there a way of using a voltmeter to test if there is a signal coming from the anemometer? That would help track down exactly where the problem lies.
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
Thanks Steve. I'm hoping John Dann might spot this and come back with some answers. If not, I'll email privately.
I'm sure someone here will know about testing the signal.
Mark, just saw your reply and yes, I do have the latest model with the Hall effect switch. Can that signal be tested?
I'm sure someone here will know about testing the signal.
Mark, just saw your reply and yes, I do have the latest model with the Hall effect switch. Can that signal be tested?
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
Is it actually transmitting? Have you had a look at the reception stats on the console? Also, you could set dip switch 4 when it isn't working, the transmit light on the SIM should flash every 2.5 seconds with that on (remember to switch it off again afterwards).
Not sure how to test the new wind vanes, Google.....
Not sure how to test the new wind vanes, Google.....
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
Ah, I'd forgotten all about that. I'll read the manual and refresh my brain. Not sure if it's transmitting okay but the box it's plugged into has a problem or just not transmitting. Will the reception stats show me the difference?mcrossley wrote:Is it actually transmitting? Have you had a look at the reception stats on the console? Also, you could set dip switch 4 when it isn't working, the transmit light on the SIM should flash every 2.5 seconds with that on (remember to switch it off again afterwards).
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
I'd have to dig the radio stats info out, but basically you need to know first of all is the anemometer not working, or the transmitter not transmitting. If the latter then the fact that if has stopped the last couple times at the end of night, then started again during the day may point to super capacitor failing. Did you check the battery voltage?
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
The battery is just over 12 months old so should be okay. It's on a ESE facing wall so gets plenty of morning sunshine (that's when it does shine of course!). But it has been particularly dull for the last couple of months so that cold be a factor.
According to Cumulus both batteries are okay. http://www.cheadlehulmeweather.co.uk/system.htm
I have a spare Duracell so might put that in. Change one thing at a time and see if it makes a difference eh?
Thanks Mark.
According to Cumulus both batteries are okay. http://www.cheadlehulmeweather.co.uk/system.htm
I have a spare Duracell so might put that in. Change one thing at a time and see if it makes a difference eh?
Thanks Mark.
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
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I also have a new type anemometer which is almost 2 years old, it started missing readings and then over about a week it has got progressively worse. It will now not read low wind speeds and needs approx. 5 - 10 mph to get it spinning and then will stop suddenly as the wind speed stops. I have not got up to it yet, but the belief from Davis is that there is some stiction and I am hoping they will replace it. I am currently awaiting a returns number from them.
Dave
I also have a new type anemometer which is almost 2 years old, it started missing readings and then over about a week it has got progressively worse. It will now not read low wind speeds and needs approx. 5 - 10 mph to get it spinning and then will stop suddenly as the wind speed stops. I have not got up to it yet, but the belief from Davis is that there is some stiction and I am hoping they will replace it. I am currently awaiting a returns number from them.
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
Good luck with that Dave. Davis kit is usually pretty good quality so it's disappointing to hear of a problem especially with the new design.
Since I cleaned the connection and rotated the Duracell battery in my transmitter box there has been no repetition of the drop outs. Strange problem. If it was the capacitor I'd expect it to just stop. Fingers crossed it was just some damp.
Since I cleaned the connection and rotated the Duracell battery in my transmitter box there has been no repetition of the drop outs. Strange problem. If it was the capacitor I'd expect it to just stop. Fingers crossed it was just some damp.
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Re: Wind drops to zero - cause for concern?
I think it's safe to assume that the anemometer is now working okay again as there have been no dropouts in over a month.
All I did was unplug the anemometer cable in the transmitter box and give the plug and socket a wipe with a handkerchief. I also rotated the batteries in the transmitter to ensure a clean contact. That seems to have done the trick. If anyone else has this problem then hopefully the above may be of help to them.
All I did was unplug the anemometer cable in the transmitter box and give the plug and socket a wipe with a handkerchief. I also rotated the batteries in the transmitter to ensure a clean contact. That seems to have done the trick. If anyone else has this problem then hopefully the above may be of help to them.