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Moon Phase Description Error

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Moon Phase Description Error

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On my index page the moon phase description does not match the moon image and also on the Cumulus console. From what I can see the image is correct for the moon phase on both and the description for both incorrect. On the Davis console both are correct. So where does Cumulus get the data for #moonphase and is there a way to correct to show the correct description.


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Re: Moon Phase Description Error

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What do you think is wrong? The Moon is currently in a waxing gibbous phase.

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I thought that it was first quarter as shown on the Davis console and a weather app. Maybe I am also getting confused with the shape of the moon icons as it shape is similar to first quarter. I down loaded the eight moon phase png files to use with the #moonphase to change moon phase picture on the index page. I have to change the files names to suit the southern hemisphere.
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It's the old chestnut of how long does a phase last? Different apps use different lengths of time to "hold" a phase description.

The four quarter phases are really instants in time, the period we choose either side of that instant to call it a quarter name is arbitrary. I lengthened that time slightly in MX from what it was - which l assume was what is used in C1.

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Hi apple8,
Just an observation, your image for last quarter is actually a first quarter image for Southern Hemisphere.
First Quarter was on 14th Sept.
Actually same goes for your Waning Gibbons image, should be reversed, as it is Waxing Gibbons for Southern Hemisphere.
Take a look at mine here in Tasmania (also southern hemisphere) : https://beaumaris-weather.com/wxastronomy.php
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mcrossley wrote:
Tue 14 Sep 2021 5:25 pm
It's the old chestnut of how long does a phase last? Different apps use different length of time to "hold" a phase description.

A phase is really an instant in time, the period we choose either side of that instant to call it a phase name is arbitrary. I lengthened that time slightly in MX from what it was - which l assume was what is used in C1.
Ok thank you, that explains it well, and after more reading, I can see anything in between the primary phases is either waxing or waning which is the majority of the time.
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Tue 14 Sep 2021 10:06 pm
Hi apple8,
Just an observation, your image for last quarter is actually a first quarter image for Southern Hemisphere.
First Quarter was on 14th Sept.
Actually same goes for your Waning Gibbons image, should be reversed, as it is Waxing Gibbons for Southern Hemisphere.
Take a look at mine here in Tasmania (also southern hemisphere) : https://beaumaris-weather.com/wxastronomy.php
kind Regards,
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Thanks Tony, I have altered the file names to correct the images for the southern hemisphere and changed the indexT file so #moonphase determines the correct png file. Hopefully I got it right. Time will tell.

By the way your site and content is impressive.

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Hi apple8,
I have not used cumulus1 for eons now and cannot understand what you are changing or trying to change regards the current moon phase on your site http://www.blazingcomet.com/weather/, but the moon image as far as I can see is correct.

Maybe someone who still uses cumulus1 can assist you.

Oh and thank you for the kind words, the website is always continually under development and never finalised, but I try.

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Re: Moon Phase Description Error

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Seems to be correct ATM ?

Although strictly speaking should have left the names as they were and either flip and mirror images in an editor or used css to rotate 180 deg. (The images are upside down for the Southern Hemisphere).

@tony ....
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@beteljuice
Oh dear, I can't even blame fat fingers on that one matey. I can only blame too much Wild Turkey @ 43%.
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The turkeys are wild about the gibbons waxing :o

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beteljuice wrote:
Wed 15 Sep 2021 11:39 am
Although strictly speaking should have left the names as they were and either flip and mirror images in an editor or used css to rotate 180 deg. (The images are upside down for the Southern Hemisphere).
Well spotted. I rotated the images 180°and replaced the old so maybe this time I got it right.
BeaumarisWX wrote:
Wed 15 Sep 2021 9:32 am
I have not used cumulus1 for eons now and cannot understand what you are changing or trying to change regards the current moon phase on your site http://www.blazingcomet.com/weather/, but the moon image as far as I can see is correct.
It is something I found on an old post on the forum, by changing the line starting with <td rowspan="3"><img src="images/moon.bmp" alt="Moon" to <td rowspan="3"><img src="images/moonphase/<#moonphase>.png" alt="Moon" so it will display a custom image rather than the cumulus bmp image.

Might be time to rethink MX if I can get enough courage.

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Long-time Cumulus 1 user here. I use this graphic for the moon phase.
https://www.moonconnection.com/

The link top-right takes you to this page. https://www.moonconnection.com/moon_module_2.phtml
Cheers,
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Thanks for the link Ray, I will look at that option.

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