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I've noticed that meteoalarm hasn't shown any warnings for the UK for weeks now. Normally, as soon as the Met Office add a warning, meteoalarm follow suit. We've had a lot of warnings across the UK in that time..

I don't know if it has anything to do with us leaving the EU or not? Norway still get them, and they're not part of the EU, so I don't know what is going on?

Either way, the meteoalarm script for UK users is completely useless now.
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Mapantz wrote: Thu 28 Jan 2021 9:52 pm I've noticed that meteoalarm hasn't shown any warnings for the UK for weeks now. Normally, as soon as the Met Office add a warning, meteoalarm follow suit. We've had a lot of warnings across the UK in that time..

I don't know if it has anything to do with us leaving the EU or not? Norway still get them, and they're not part of the EU, so I don't know what is going on?

Either way, the meteoalarm script for UK users is completely useless now.
Yep looks like their not playing any longer. not sure if someone could do something with just the Met Office RSS feed perhaps?

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/guides/rss

Time to remove the script.
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Nothing to do with leaving the EU. Supply will resume this year.
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freddie wrote: Thu 28 Jan 2021 10:09 pm Nothing to do with leaving the EU. Supply will resume this year.
do you have some insight into what's happening then freddie?
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Reinventing the wheel.
But at least the wheel is British (free to Rees-Mogg on fish).
Sorry about this guys, shouldn't have said this but a joke now and then is permitted, isn't it :?: ;) :? :mrgreen:
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ConligWX wrote: Fri 29 Jan 2021 1:23 pmdo you have some insight into what's happening then freddie?
I do. I will provide more details in a while.
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HansR wrote: Fri 29 Jan 2021 2:08 pm Reinventing the wheel.
But at least the wheel is British (free to Rees-Mogg on fish).
Sorry about this guys, shouldn't have said this but a joke now and then is permitted, isn't it :?: ;) :? :mrgreen:
of course, and here I thought it maybe in retaliation to the AstraZeneca Vaccine that the EU blocked weather alerts on Meteoalarm :lol:
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ConligWX wrote: Fri 29 Jan 2021 3:46 pm in retaliation to the AstraZeneca Vaccine that the EU
:lol: great to see humour is still shared among us
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ConligWX wrote: Fri 29 Jan 2021 1:23 pm
freddie wrote: Thu 28 Jan 2021 10:09 pm Nothing to do with leaving the EU. Supply will resume this year.
do you have some insight into what's happening then freddie?
Sorry about the slow reply - I got diverted on to other stuff :)
Meteoalarm is just the web frontend to a system called EMMA ((European Multi-Services Meteorological Awareness). There are big changes happening to EMMA at the moment, with a new protocol being phased in, plus a gradual change towards impact-based (as opposed to threshold-based) warnings. Both new and old systems are currently running in parallel. I haven't been able to find a link to a web resource with which you can view the data on the new system. I'm assuming that the meteoalarm website will be switched to use the new system at some point in the near future. The Met Office is sending data to the new system in readiness for the switch-over. Data is no longer sent to the old system.

So - service should be resumed at some point in the near future.
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thanks for the update!
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Thanks for the update, Freddy.

I wonder if the update will break current scripts?

Nonetheless, it's good to see an upgrade going on.
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its a pity the meteoalarm script could read the met office rss weather alerts.
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https://www.meteoalarm.org/en

That will go live on March 1st.

Apparently though, there's no way of scraping that site like the old one. So whilst permission was given to allow the scraping of the old site, it looks like the meteoalarm script is done.
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Mapantz wrote: Thu 11 Feb 2021 11:56 amApparently though, there's no way of scraping that site like the old one. So whilst permission was given to allow the scraping of the old site, it looks like the meteoalarm script is done.
Perhaps meteoalarm will supply endpoints to allow you to get json/xml representation of the warnings? I doubt it, though, as the point of meteoalarm was to consolidate Europe-wide warnings in to one display. No doubt they collect the raw data behind the scenes - but only to process it into map tiles / polygons etc.

I know the UK Met Office has RSS feed for warnings. Perhaps other national Met services do too. Should be relatively easy to change the script to handle RSS feeds for those Met services that supply them.
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Wow! That page downloads 13.4 MB of warnings data to display a few alerts. That so some efficiency. :lol:
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